100% agree.
They have just pull out the money of our pockets.  Nothing else.
With a investment of else 100.000 USD, they have make a income of over 1.000.000 USD. So, it was a good investment. Why you think, that you get no response? ForPhil and Sophie it was a good deal. If you can do a same deal, so what you accept?
Even the Australien gouverment have spend money in the company.

Just my 1 cent (€)

Phil & Sophie: If it not so, pls. say it.

Daniel

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Garcia" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: any word?


Someone buying witango is not even viable anymore, in my opinion. I remember when with bought it from pervasive, and we all hoped this would save it. But the fact is, when they did witango had already horribly fallen behind. Other languages had been building features and stability while witango was neglected by pervasive. Then with spent all their resources trying to bring stability to witango, and still the other dev environments pulled ahead. With made their money from OEMs and decided to turn away from the witango dev community. Now witango is so horribly behind, you are crippling yourselves and your business if you continue to hope for witango. Witango is a 20th century product and no one in their right mind would buy it. At this point, it is ONLY worth its OEM business, and that can't last too much longer. If the source code and technology was gifted to me, I wouldn't use it or try to resurrect it. Believe me, I know that wouldn't happen. ;-)

Witango is dead, if 6 came out tomorrow, I believe that would still be true. I still have a few old sites on it, and I am actually at the point, where I am just going to have to port to php at my own expense, instead of waiting for the "redesign", or new feature to add that helps pay for the port. I also have one large government funded client, that we are moving to php from witango, and when that site is finally turned off this year, I will actually unsubscribe to this list even.

Don't hope for the witango 6 news. In the end, Phil has already shown how he will treat you as a continued customer if you stayed. Why would you put up with that?

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On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:28 AM, Wolf, Gene (SA-1) wrote:

I've been quiet for quite a few months and someone awhile back put this
far better than I will. This is only my perception and I don't want to
start another flamefest but my view is that they simply have stopped
caring. It's not that they don't get it but it seems they have moved on
to something else. Every once in awhile they will get a licensing fee
and that makes for a nice little bonus. By coming out and saying they
are no longer supporting/improving/maintaining Witango would kill what
little revenue stream they are getting and it's easier just to lead us,
and the developer community as a whole, on. Cynical? Sure. Come up with
a better explanation.

My suggestion is use your contacts in the wider community to get Witango
bought out by a larger company. One like Oracle, Microsoft, Apple,
Hostmonster, Corda, Google or some other company. Yes, yes, horrors. If
Microsoft or Apple bought Witango they might kill it. Don't see how that
would be much different than what we have now. If Oracle bought Witango
it would be interesting. My thought here is that if With was approached
and offered a reasonable price for Witango they'd accept it. The large
companies mentioned above purchase smaller companies all the time.
Imagine if Hostmonster (www.hostmonster.com) or Google developed an
online, web based version of Witango to work with any database for the
creation of forms, reports, database maintenance or any other capability
we all know Witango to excel at. Show these contacts the power of
Witango. Get the interested in at least investigating it. Show them what
you've done and how long it takes to put something together.

We are the community and we like the product. We can try to get it known
to a wider audience for the purpose of being acquired. Yes, it may end
up like the Pervasive purchase but it may not. The status quo is
certainly not tenable.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Stein [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: any word?

And I contacted him several times back channel requesting he update us
but he ignored me. Such a shame that the company does such a poor job of
PR. I think they just don't get it.
--- Dan Stein MSN CRNP
FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
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Digital Software Solutions
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Abraham Lincoln






On Mar 2, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Stefan Gonick wrote:

No new announcements, hints or gestures. When we last heard from
Phil he said that they were still working on it but was not willing to
give
any more details.

Stefan

At 03:33 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote:

was a 6.0 announcement made? A hint? A gesture?

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