At $work we mostly use Mercurial (previous jobs used CVS and ClearCase) and 
colleagues struggled to learn git when they moved onto a new project.  At a 
minimum we probably need to advise people to add “-b wix38” etc. when cloning 
the repository.

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Bruce

From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:27 PM
To: Christopher Painter; Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list
Subject: [WiX-devs] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Interested in helping on 3.8

1. Do we need to write a tutorial for git for WiX toolset? I'd hoped git had 
taken over the world enough that we don't need a tutorial how to download code 
with it. No?

2. I use an empty cmd shell most of the time. Things *should* just work but if 
you have a permutation that you used that didn't work we can try to get it 
fixed. To be clear, there are a *lot* of configurations that could be tested. 
It's non-trivial.

3. That'd be a great thing to contribute. Can you add it to the documentation 
where you thought it should have been spelled out?

4. That doesn't sound right. I have a machine with VS2008 and VS2010 and it 
skips all VS2012 stuff. I now have a VS2012 machine and it skips all the VS2008 
and VS2010 stuff. What issues did you have?

5. Bummer indeed.

That's how we got what we have today. There are a lot of permutations and I'm 
do not have the time to create the VMs to test them all. Instead, if one has a 
configuration that doesn't work, let's capture what we can from that and 
improve.

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Christopher Painter 
<chr...@iswix.com<mailto:chr...@iswix.com>> wrote:
Rob,

 I agree it *is* much better then it used to be.  Still, I did hit a number of 
road bumps over the weekend.  The problem is it's hard for me to write up any 
suggestions because my conclusions could be all wrong.  And it's hard for you 
to identify the gaps due to you already knowing the ins and outs.   Make sense?
 I think the process is pretty good as it stands now.... just  more 
documentation in the how to build wix needs to exist.   I had to scrape several 
sources  (some old and outdated)  to get to a point of building.  Some high 
level issues were:

1) Pulling source from CodePlex.  Bob's blog talked about Mecurial but now it 
seems to be Git. (Depending on what branch you are on?)
2) What version and bitness of vs command tools should be used?  (I was getting 
CreateItem task errors out of the nuget targets.)
3) It seems OneTimeWixBuildInitialization.proj has to be built as admin.  The 
help topic doesn't cover this.
4) It seems there are conditional compiles that are only enforced for an 
"official build".  Good design, but tough for a new guy that doesn't know this. 
 I had to turn to twitter to figure this out.
5) Others I sadly don't recall....

I guess my advice is start with a clean VM and pretend you don't know anything 
about WiX and see what's involved in getting it all to build.

Regards,
Chris

________________________________
From: "Rob Mensching" <r...@robmensching.com<mailto:r...@robmensching.com>>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:02 AM
To: "Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list" 
<wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: [WiX-devs] [SPAM] Re: Interested in helping on 3.8

Your notes and any thoughts on getting the WiX toolset build process easier 
would be very useful. We've done work over last few releases to get WiX toolset 
much easier to build but if there is more we can do, we should do it. People 
still say there are challenges building the WiX toolset.

If you're just getting started, a really easy bug to fix might be good place to 
start. #4037 (http://wixtoolset.org/issues/4037/) might be a good one.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Phill Hogland 
<phogl...@rimage.com<mailto:phogl...@rimage.com>> wrote:
I am interested in offering any help I can provide.  I am relatively new to
wix, msi, msbuild, c# but I have too many years of doing pure InstallScript
setups and C++ services and drivers.  Please let me know how I can help
test, document, code, or whatever.

While waiting for my legal/management team to approve the assignment
agreement, approved and submitted to Outercurve this morning, in addition to
configuring my work development system to build the debug version of Wix
3.8, at home I created a new PC (Win 7 64, but I can load other OS),
installed VS2013, VS2013 SDK, Win 7 SDK, and the latest Wix 3.8 source code.
I have over the last several nights been trying to hack past problems with
building the full wix.proj, and keeping notes so I can report back if that
would be helpful.  It wants me to install Win7 SDK (which is installed) or
VS2010 (which is not installed).  So for now I am just trying to learn more
about the build process by researching these issues.  But I am happy to
refocus on anything that would be more helpful.



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