At one time I tried to create such a thing from within the Windows Live
organization, but was unable to sell the vision sufficiently to get it launched
(we did the Windows Live Essentials bootstrapper instead, seeing as how burn
was in redesign mode at the time and we had to ship).
In the present day I see a WiX extension for Chocolatey, another for CoApp,
another for <insert-package-manager-here kind=”favorite”/> all of which are
released either by those teams or by third parties (none created or maintained
by the WiX toolset team, but possibly created by people who also happen to be
WiX contributors) until such time as sufficient momentum builds behind one or
more of these initiatives for it to become a valuable use of our limited
resources.
-Blair
From: Rob Mensching
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 9:22 AM
To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net
It sounds like you want something more like what http://coapp.org/ was. There
have been many attempts at building such a thing on Windows. I’ve even
considered adding it to the WiX toolset a few times over the years. Each time
it didn’t seem to fit. The WiX toolset builds installation packages for
Windows. The closest thing we have to managing packages is Bundles. And while
Bundles need a few more features, they do seem to align quite well with the way
ISVs release software on Windows. That’s why we built them the way we did.
Maybe one day I’ll finally try to go tip at the Windows package manager
windmill myself but I would launch it in a separate project from the WiX
toolset. Before that day, there are a lot more things that need to get done in
the WiX toolset.
From: Aleksandr Vishnyakov [mailto:asvishnya...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:35 AM
To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] How about package manager based on Windows Installer
and WiX?
What do you think about this?
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Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:20:56 +0000
From: Aleksandr Vishnyakov <asvishnya...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] How about package manager based on Windows
Installer and WiX?
To: " wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net "
<wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <dub405-eas197743ed3fbbc7117725ff9dd...@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hmm. Ok.
Then I'm talking about the package manager with repository feed support and
plugin for integration into IDE.
- Bundle not support version dependencies (1.x pattern, for example)
- It should be a single package manager to which users could add repository
feeds to find / install / upgrade programs and components
- It need to plugin for Visual Studio (and may be other IDE) like NuGet. Bundle
must provide special metadata for it.
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Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 06:51
From: Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com>
Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] How about package manager based on Windows
Installer and WiX?
To: WiX toolset developer mailing list
<wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net>
Can you define package manager first? I?ve found people have different
definitions of that word.
Note: IMHO, NuGet is a package manager for VS. It is not an installation
mechanism, although there are projects that build on NuGet as a transportation
protocol and write things like package managers.
From: Aleksandr Vishnyakov [mailto:asvishnya...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 2:57 PM
To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-devs] How about package manager based on Windows Installer and
WiX?
Of course we have great NuGet project, but it have some issues:
1. It encourages the use of multiple files of the same assembly on one
machine (duplication). Duplication requires more disk space and more bandwidth
when downloading.
1. It doesn't integrated with Windows Installer or WiX. No installation per
machine, no deploying, no detection of installed dll?s
1. We have not simple mechanism to create, distribute and update NuGet
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