Reading existing performance counters and WMI stuff is one thing. Creating new counters and schema is another. If you just need to read, you are fine. You can assume that the counters you need to read are already there.
I think you'd know if you had to install any perf counters or WMI, as there would be PerformanceCounterInstaller classes and such in the assembly that contains your Installer classes. Joe K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Fesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joe Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [WiX-users] InstallUtil considered harmful... What next? > > I hope that helps some. Luckily, you aren't doing perf counters or WMI > > or > > you would be looking at something much more difficult. :) > > Actually, I may well be... The service in question is an OS monitoring > agent. > > -- > > Eric Fesh > Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer > Verari Systems Software, Inc. > 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 > Birmingham, AL 35203 > Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 > Fax +1-205-397-3142 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.verarisoft.com/ > > The information contained in this communication may be confidential and is > intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader > of > this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby > notified > that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or > any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named > recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the > sender > and delete the communication and all copies of it. > > > Joe Kaplan wrote: >> Tallow won't reverse engineer Installer classes. You'll need to figure >> out >> how the service is actually installed and create the authoring for the >> ServiceInstall elements. That should not be too hard though. You'll >> also >> get a lot more functionality this way, as you can set a lot of things >> that >> aren't even exposed by the installer classes such as the service restart >> behaviors and the friendly description. >> >> There is a gotcha though with the managed service installer classes. Not >> only does it create a service in the service database, but it also >> installs >> an event source for you in the application log for the service to write >> to. >> In order to support this behavior, you'll need to create some WiX >> authoring >> to create an Event Source. This is done by setting the proper registry >> elements in HKLM to create an Event Source. >> >> I'm not sure if anyone has created a sample of this or not. You might be >> able to get tallow to help you here by saving the registry key settings >> to a >> file and reverse engineering that into WiX authoring. There is another >> trick to be aware though, in that .NET event sources use the message DLL >> that comes with the .NET framework, and the registry will contain a path >> to >> that. You may need to make that dynamic based on the version of the .NET >> framework you are supporting. It could get a little tricky, but should >> not >> be too hard. >> >> I hope that helps some. Luckily, you aren't doing perf counters or WMI >> or >> you would be looking at something much more difficult. :) >> >> Joe K. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eric Fesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] InstallUtil considered harmful... What next? >> >> >>> So tallow works for .NET assemblies? I thought it would only capture >>> that >>> information from COM objects... Or do I need to go to 3.0.x for that? >>> I'd >>> been >>> holding off upgrading until 3.0 stabilized, but I may not have a >>> choice... >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Eric Fesh >>> Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer >>> Verari Systems Software, Inc. >>> 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 >>> Birmingham, AL 35203 >>> Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 >>> Fax +1-205-397-3142 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://www.verarisoft.com/ >>> >>> The information contained in this communication may be confidential and >>> is >>> intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the >>> reader >>> of >>> this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby >>> notified >>> that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, >>> or >>> any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named >>> recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the >>> sender >>> and delete the communication and all copies of it. >>> >>> >>> John Ludlow wrote: >>>> Depending on the version of WiX, you would use either tallow (in 2.0.x) >>>> or >>>> heat (3.0.x) to generate the registration information. This dumps a >>>> load of >>>> stuff into the registry table, essentially mimicking what >>>> self-registration >>>> does but within the MSI transaction (meaning it gets rolled back during >>>> an >>>> error, and removed during an uninstall). >>>> >>>> On 8/25/06, Eric Fesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> I've seen it said often enough that use of InstallUtil (and >>>>> self-registering >>>>> components in general) in custom actions isn't a good idea. In my >>>>> google >>>>> searches, I have found this quote from Rob to the effect that >>>>> >>>>> "My suggestion (which is rarely popular <smile/>) is to just do the >>>>> right >>>>> thing >>>>> the first time and save yourself the time you'll spend later trying to >>>>> manage >>>>> the InstallUtil hack." >>>>> >>>>> I accept this and want to do the right thing. Problem is, I'm not >>>>> clear on >>>>> what >>>>> the right thing is... I'm trying to repackage an installer a co-worker >>>>> built >>>>> with VS.NET because there's some manual setup that needs to be >>>>> automated >>>>> once >>>>> it's been installed. Unfortunately, it's got a number of .NET >>>>> assemblies >>>>> that >>>>> need to be installed (of which one or more are services), and VS.NET >>>>> uses >>>>> the >>>>> InstallUtil hack. >>>>> >>>>> How would one go about doing the "right thing" in this situation? Is >>>>> this >>>>> a >>>>> matter of having to know how to write .NET code that plays nice with >>>>> Windows >>>>> Installer? How would one use the ServiceInstall and ServiceControl >>>>> elements on >>>>> .NET assemblies instead of InstallUtil? Is that even possible? >>>>> >>>>> I don't mean to come off as rude here... I just can't seem to >>>>> formulate >>>>> the >>>>> correct Google search to get at this information. Even pointers on >>>>> where >>>>> to look >>>>> for the information would be useful... And as always, I greatly >>>>> appreciate >>>>> any >>>>> help you all could provide. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Eric Fesh >>>>> Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer >>>>> Verari Systems Software, Inc. >>>>> 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 >>>>> Birmingham, AL 35203 >>>>> Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 >>>>> Fax +1-205-397-3142 >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> http://www.verarisoft.com/ >>>>> >>>>> The information contained in this communication may be confidential >>>>> and is >>>>> intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the >>>>> reader >>>>> of >>>>> this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby >>>>> notified >>>>> that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this >>>>> communication, or >>>>> any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. 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