No, the oppisate. I want setup.exe to be very small and it then will
download the needed installers and run them only if needed. And it will
download them from the MS website.
So the user runs setup.exe and then when running, if they don't have
.NET framework installed, it downloads it from www.microsoft.com
<http://www.microsoft.com/> and runs it.
Thanks - dave
David Thielen
www.windwardreports.com
303-499-2544 x1185
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
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From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:25 PM
To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions
You mean you want the download for Windows Installer, SQL Express, .NET
Framework, J# etc to be all in one file? Just trying to understand.....
Phil Wilson
________________________________
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Thielen
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:15 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions
Hi;
I think I'm not understanding something. I want the bootstrapper to give
me a small setup.exe that will download things like the .NET framework
only if needed on that user's computer. And I need the download to be a
single file to make it easy. How can I build this? The examples I see
all assume that the install programs for things like the .NET framework
are downloaded with setup.exe which eliminates the whole purpose of it.
Thanks - dave
David Thielen
www.windwardreports.com
303-499-2544 x1185
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
________________________________
From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:07 PM
To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions
Some answers to your questions (sorry, not all):
#1. The official documentation for GenerateBootstrapper (the MSBuild
task) is http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms164294.aspx. I
don't know where the official documentation for the bootstrapper itself
it. You don't need to make a package.xml file at all unless you are
creating a redistributable package. If you need to do that, you put the
HomeSite in the product.xml file.
#2. Never tried it. Don't know if it is useful.
#3. In your msbuild project you set the ApplicationFile attribute to
the filename of your .msi on the GenerateBootstrapper task (see my
sample in a previous email). It's not embedded. It sits side by side
with the setup.exe. I believe you can have it be downloaded using the
ApplicationUrl attribute (at least the documentation implies that), but
I have not tested it.
#4. The only things you can control are the name for your application
(using the ApplicationName attribute). The rest of the UI is
un-configurable.
#5. The bootstrapper generates a setup.exe to sit beside your .msi (and
any of your dependencies if you are not downloading them). You could
use tools like PackageForTheWeb to pack them into a single file if you
need to, or you might be able to have everything be downloaded including
your .msi (see above) so that they only get the setup.exe.
#6. You might be able to copy the existing SQL Express package and
adjust the rules in its product.xml file to make it not be installed if
SQL is already installed (you'll have to look at the product.xml and
learn its syntax by a combination of insight and trial and error--I
don't know of any documentation, but the format is pretty intuitive when
you look at it). But you can't make dependecies "optional" for the user
to decide with this bootstrapper. It doesn't support that.
#7. I sent you a previous email with a sample msbuild project file. You
put your list of dependencies in the BootstrapperItems ItemGroup.
#8. No, it only supports either always downloaded or always local.
#8b. If you are doing local, when you run the msbuild project, by
default it will copy the files to the output directory in the proper
directory structure.
________________________________
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Thielen
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:07 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions
Hi;
I posted this also in the MS forums (no answer) and the MSDN managed
newsgroups (useless answer). I am hoping someone here can help.
First off, I have read the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/10/Bootstrapper/
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvs05/
html/custom_pkg.asp
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms164294.aspx
http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=ddb4f08c-7d7c-4f44
-a009-ea19fc812545
Sorry for all the questions - there is a lot of content about using the
bootstrapper to do X but none I could find about all the properties for
anything other than the samples shown. And unfortunately none showed
requiring J# (a prerequisite for us).
After reading the above (and some other pages) I have the following
questions about using this:
1) Where is complete documentation for GenerateBootstrapper - including
what to put in the package.xml to download from Microsoft (not included
in the package and not download from us but downloaded from MS if
needed):
a) .NET 2.0 framework
b) .NET 2.0 language pack if appropiate
c) J# 2.0 framework
d) J# 2.0 language pack if appropiate
e) whatever windows setup a wix built msi needs
2) Is there anywhere to get the Bootstrapper Manifest Generator and is
it worth using? The download link at
http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=ddb4f08c-7d7c-4f44
-a009-ea19fc812545 does not work.
3) How do I set it to run our msi installer when it is done with the
prerequisites? And is it embedded in the created setup.exe or downloaded
at that time? If an option, which is recomended.
4) How do I put out name and text in the dialogs for setup.exe?
5) Is this a single file? Or is this a set of files that we need to
write an installer for?
6) Is there a way to make Sql Server Express an option and not show it
as an option if Sql Server regular or express (not only express) is
already installed?
7) Are there any samples of how we should set up our part of package.xml
and the rest of our settings - both in our msbuild.proj file and in the
xml files that list what goes in to the bootstrapper.
8) Can this be set so that it will look first on disk for the needed
install files and then on MS' website so if we put this all on disk we
can use the same bootstrapper?
8b) And if so, where do we get those files and what is the directory
structure?
I hope with answers to the above I will have at most 1 - 2 followup
questions.
thanks - dave
David Thielen
www.windwardreports.com
303-499-2544 x1185
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
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