Julie,

Thanks for the Wiki. 

To all interested:

I've published the first two pages (out of five) of my "beginners
tutorial".

http://www.merlinia.com/mdt/WiXTutorial.msl

It's a lot more work than I expected.  :-(

Corrections, suggestions, criticism, etc. very welcome.

Probably not of much interest to anybody here because it's so
introductory...

Yours,
Rennie

 

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> Julie Campbell
> Sent: 23. april 2007 19:52
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [WiX-users] Beginner's Tutorial, Books, Versions...
> 
> I'm a little late on the topic, but I didn't have access to 
> my e-mail over the weekend.  Like some others mentioned, I am 
> a software engineer first and an installer person third or 
> fourth ... some perspective, comments, ideas ... sorry, this is long.
> 
> I started learning WiX in late 2006 after management finally 
> came to the realization that our current installers (written 
> by a third party) had no chance at all of working under 
> Vista.  After looking at InstallShield 12, Wise and WiX, I 
> chose WiX for my emergency development, specifically v3 as I 
> got the impression it was stable enough (and hasn't given me reason to
> doubt) for general application installers.
> 
> The tutorial Gabor created and maintains was good to start 
> out with and gave me that initial "WiX is easy and I like it" 
> feeling.  However, as it is for v2, it didn't cover some 
> things I needed to know and other things didn't apply.  
> 
> There are several great WiX bloggers out there and some 
> really awesome explanations of more advanced topics. However, 
> I find searching for and reading blog entries a really 
> painful way to come up a learning curve.  
> 
> So, I started reading the mailing list religiously and saved 
> notes whenever I saw something I thought might be useful.  I 
> created and admin a very successful intranet MediaWiki site 
> at work, so I started saving these notes on an intranet wiki 
> of my own, because despite the creation and early promise of 
> wixwiki.com, it is locked down very tightly, not really 
> organized, I can't even find an e-mail address to request an 
> account from (though I could probably search for rmacfadyen 
> in wix-users), and there have been a whopping 5 changes in 
> the last 60 days.  
> 
> Before I know it, I'm up to over 50 pages of rough notes and 
> link collections (see http://www.mindcapers.com/wiki/WiX).  
> I'm also seeing the same questions on this list over and 
> over.  I'm having to dig through WiX source code to answer 
> some of my questions.  I look for a book on WiX, there isn't 
> one.  With the WiX v3 roadmap looking like completion at the 
> end of 2007, I'm thinking by then I'll move from "competent 
> user" to "expert" with the demands ahead of me anyway.  My 16 
> years of professional development gives me enough insight to 
> how long this learning curve will take.  I start considering 
> writing a book for software developers to come up the 
> intermediate learning curve to save some of the pain I went 
> through (thank you Google for easing that effort!).
> 
> As I started digging around more, and putting notes in a Word 
> document, there are dozens (at least) of developers blogging 
> about WiX.  There is a Wiki.  There is a mailing list.  There 
> are at least a couple people contemplating writing a book.
> 
> So ... what I would really like to see is group effort on 
> getting one superb set of documentation together rather than 
> the hodge-podge of incomplete sources of information that exist today.
> 
> I am willing to help, leading or following, doesn't matter.  
> Any of the following would be great:
> 
> * I am an excellent MediaWiki admin and could clean up, categorize and
> improve wixwiki.com given the opportunity.   
> * I would be happy to migrate my non-duplicated WiX materials 
> to wixwiki.com.
> * My wiki has open registration if the tightly locked down 
> wixwiki.com site isn't loosened up a bit.
> * I would love collaborators on a book.  I haven't written an 
> entire book before, but I've got a good outline started and a 
> knack for translating technical mumbo-jumbo into 
> understandable explanations.  I also have excellent 
> organizational skills.  However, there are some topics I have 
> only glossed over (IIS, SQLServer, xmlconfig) as these aren't 
> of immediate interest to me.  Besides, it is a bit silly for 
> a relative outsider to try to go it alone and re-create 
> wheels that have already been rounded.  A book probably isn't 
> all that far off with "go ahead and steal my blog entries as 
> long as you consider me a contributor" permission grants.  It 
> would also be silly not to have at least small pieces of book 
> created by Rob, Bob and the other Wixperts.
> 
> A wiki can be as good as a book if organized correctly.  
> There are also MediaWiki extensions available to convert wiki 
> sites into .chm files, which would be immensely useful for 
> those of us that go "off network" for a few days at a time.
> 
> I sent an e-mail to wixadmin quite a while ago asking for a 
> release to sign and offering to assist with the help files, 
> but never received a response.
> I have no idea whether that was due to my lack of "karma" or 
> a bit-bucket e-mail address.
> 
> Anyway, enough babbling from me.  What would you like to see? 
>  I seem to be set of creating or improving *something*, for 
> my own use if nothing else, might as well make it easier on 
> myself and share with the world at the same time.
>  
> Julie Campbell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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