Hi Blair,

I googled how to create custom action dll. And the link error has been resolved.

Now the question is how to complete the function as you suggested.


Regards,

Chunyan

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 14:50
An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

Hi Blair,

Thanks a lot for your help.

I will try to use the path search custom action as you said. I am not clear how 
to create a custom action native dll. I just create an empty project in Visual 
Studio 2005. Add your code to .cpp file:
#include <windows.h>
#include <msi.h>
#include <msiquery.h>
#pragma comment(linker, 
"/EXPORT:schedulestartmyservice=schedulestartmyserv...@4")
...
Your code
...

When I compile it, there is error:

LINK : fatal error LNK1561: entry point must be defined


How can I resolve this link error? And I also have some other questions about 
the function: 
retrieve the "ARPINSTALLLOCATION" from the session retrieve the "PREVIOUSFOUND" 
property from the session

I think I have learned a lot from you. I am so lacking of knowledge of Wix.

Regards,

Chunyan

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Blair [mailto:os...@live.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 13:39
An: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

Are these services as in Windows Services, controlled by the Service Control 
Manager? They have APIs that let you discover the run state of controlled 
services, as well as the fact that you can ignore the failure to start when the 
result is that the service is already running.

If you must continue down the path you are on, do the following:
In one of your .wxs files, add this line (unless you set ARPINSTALLLOCATION
already):

<SetProperty Id="ARPINSTALLLOCATION" Value="[INSTALLLOCATION]"
After="CostFinalize"/>

Then, for an immediate custom action:

<CustomAction Id="ScheduleStartMyService" Binary="MyCADll"
DllEntry="ScheduleStartMyService"/>

<InstallExecuteSequence>
    <Custom Action="ScheduleStartMyService" /><!-- Place the exact same Before= 
or After= or Sequence= value you currently use for your current action that 
starts your services, and remove the line from the InstallExecuteSequence that 
currently schedules your action that starts the service. Don't remove it's 
CustomAction definition, however. I'm assuming it is called StartMyService. 
Also, don't place any condition on the ScheduleStartMyService action--> 
</InstallExecuteSequence>

And in your MyCADll custom action native DLL,

extern "C" UINT __stdcall ScheduleStartMyService(MSIHANDLE session) { ...
    //retrieve the "ARPINSTALLLOCATION" from the session, save it in a string 
called MyLocation
    BOOL needToStart = TRUE; 
    //retrieve the "PREVIOUSFOUND" property from the session, split at each 
';', and loop over each value
    // if there was no PREVIOUSFOUND value, the loop would be skipped (it isn't 
an error).
        // inside loop each code from the PREVIOUSFOUND property is in variable 
PreviousProduct:
        WCHAR buffer[MAX_PATH+1];
        DWORD buffLength=sizeof(buffer)/sizeof(WCHAR);
        value = ::MsiGetProductInfo(PreviousProduct,
INSTALLPROPERTY_INSTALLLOCATION, buffer, &buffLength);
        // error checking
        // compare buffer to MyLocation, if they are identical, set needToStart 
= FALSE
        // exit loop early if desired
...
    // after loop, if no error so far:
    if (needToStart)
    {
        value = ::MsiDoAction("StartMyService");
    }
...
}

You could also do the same thing in managed code (use DTF) but you would have 
to translate the API usages and logic above into the objects DTF provides to do 
the same things.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) [mailto:chunyan.ji...@ge.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:21 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

Hi Blair,

Here I would like to explain you the reason why I use this Custom Action.
This CA is to call an exe to start some services. For the old path, the 
services are already started. If start them again, it will cause problem.
For the new path, the exe must start the services, otherwise the software does 
not work.

The services must be started from install procedure. The user shall not start 
them manually. That is why I write this CA to call the exe.

Your suggestion is very good. I would like to try it. However I have no idea 
how to query the installation path, nor to compare them in CA. Could you please 
do me a favor and give me an example how to perform it?

Best regards,

Chunyan

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Blair [mailto:os...@live.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2009 16:55
An: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

At this point you have an arbitrary number of installs in an arbitrary set of 
installation paths. A simple "registry search" can't return all of the paths 
you have previously installed into.

Your PREVIOUSFOUND property contains a semi-colon-delimited list of ProductCode 
GUIDs that are the products already installed. You could use a custom action 
that queries the installation path of each of those products and compares them 
to the path you are installing into, and based on that determination 
allows/blocks your current custom action.

However, as I think about this, I have another question: What does your custom 
action do that requires running for all new paths and not for paths already 
installed into? That smells like "configuration" to me (aka registration of 
some sort). If that turns into registry or xml file writes or something like 
that, wouldn't it make more sense to make those explicit in the MSI file itself 
and not hide it behind self-registration? In other words, get rid of that 
custom action entirely by making its side effects part of your installation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) [mailto:chunyan.ji...@ge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:27 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

Hi Blair,

Thanks for your suggestion. I did the change as you said, set OnlyDetect to 
"yes". Now the new install will not cause the removing files from previous 
install in other path. It is great!

However, I have on Custon Action. I hope this CA will be run for new install to 
new path, but not run for upgrade the previous install in old path.

I tried to set it as

<Custom Action="MyCA" After="InstallFinalize">NOT Installed AND NOT 
PREVIOUSFOUND</Custom> MyCA will not run either in upgrade or in install to the 
other path. It only runs for totally new install, which is good.

However, how can I make this CA run only for install to other path, but not in 
upgrade, under the OnlyDetect = "yes"?


Best regards,

Chunyan



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Blair [mailto:os...@live.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 18:24
An: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

The first question was whether the user can switch between case 1 and case 2.

What it appears you want is to have every "version" be a major upgrade (don't 
keep old ProductCodes from one version to the next) EXCEPT when you send out a 
security fix (so you need to keep a history of all the ProductCodes you ever 
ship so that you can make those security fixes later on. This will include the 
ProductCodes in your instance transforms). This also means you will change your 
instance transforms each version as well.

In your UpgradeVersion elements, you want to always set the OnlyDetect 
attribute to "yes". You will never remove an older build/version by installing 
a newer one (although you may overwrite one, unless you protect against that).

I would suggest that your default PathX include your version number in it 
somewhere, to reduce the chance of overwriting old versions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) [mailto:chunyan.ji...@ge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:05 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

Hi Blair,

Thanks for your reply.

Sorry, I made a mistake. Case 2 is to install version 1 to both PathA and 
PathB. So case 2 is multi instance issue. But I care more about case 1 
currently. To clarify the issue, I answer your questions between lines:

1- Can the user switch cases down the road??

Not understand very well.

2- Does Version 3 overwrite Version 1 in both cases? Or is there some future 
PathC/PathD thing going on?

The Version 3 should be able to upgrade version 1 in PathA or version 2 in 
PathB, even do a new install in PathC.

3- When Version 2 is installed, is version 1 ever removed by any means?

When version 2 is installed in PathB, it should be no related to version 1 in 
PathA. So Version 1 can be removed or upgraded. 

4- If a security or other flaw is discovered in Version 1, how do you intend to 
address it?

I would like to adress the installation by product code, upgrade code, and the 
path information. Althought version 1 installed in PathA, and Version 2 
installed in PathB, they are independent actually.

I don't know if it is possible to realize this.


Best regards,

Chunyan

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Blair [mailto:os...@live.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 12:48
An: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

I don't see the difference between Case 1 and Case 2, except that the 
installation directories are switched.

Four more questions (unless there is some error in what I understood so far)
1- Can the user switch cases down the road??
2- Does Version 3 overwrite Version 1 in both cases? Or is there some future 
PathC/PathD thing going on?
3- When Version 2 is installed, is version 1 ever removed by any means?
4- If a security or other flaw is discovered in Version 1, how do you intend to 
address it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) [mailto:chunyan.ji...@ge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:45 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

Hi Blair,

Probably my use-case is special. My software should be able to install 
flexiably. It can be installed as following:

Case 1:
Version 1 install to PathA, Version 2 install to PathB

Case 2:
Version 2 install to PathA, version 1 install to PathB, again.

I am stuck in developing case 1. When I have installed version 1 to PathA, then 
try to install verison 2 to PathB, the version 1 will always be detected via 
"Install Validate". And it tries to remove files from PathA during "Remove 
Files". Althought version 2 can be installed to PathB at last, version 1 is 
brocken. And some CA in version 2 PathB can not run since version 1 PathA are 
detected for upgrade. Therefore, I hope there is some registry mechanism so 
that when install version 2 to PathB, instead of PathA, then the new version 
will not be treated as upgrade. So that the files are not "validated" and 
"removed".

For case 2, I know it is "multi instance" issue in wix installer develop. It is 
my next step.

Could you please give me some help how to realize case 1?


Thanks a lot!

Chunyan

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Blair [mailto:os...@live.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 02:35
An: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

So you need upgrades to not replace previous installations? In that case they 
are not upgrades.

I'm still trying to understand your use-case and your servicing strategy.
How do you intend to fix older versions? What do your users expect when they 
run a newer installation package from you when they have an older version 
installed?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) [mailto:chunyan.ji...@ge.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:48 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

Hi Rob,

I think over my scenario and clarify it that I want my App should be installed 
with the registry, which has the path information (PathA) in it.
So that when install a higher version (version 2) in another path (PathB), even 
they have same UpgradeCode, the previous version (version1) should not be 
upgraded (no Remove Action, no CustomAction). And the higher version is only 
treated as new install.

However, if I define the RegistryKey and RegistrySearch as my previous email, 
the Property "INSTALLDIR" will be always true, since it is all for the current 
install, not search previus install.

And when I check the Registry Editor, I only find the current Registry:
ViewPointUpgrade, value:PathB

There is no previous registry. So the RegistrySearch will always be true.

As I imagine, all the installation should be in the registry. And the property 
"INSTALLDIR" will do the registrysearch for all installed version.

How to realize it?

Regards,


Chunyan

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare)
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Oktober 2009 10:39
An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

Hi Rob,

You are right. I have been in the pain for long time. But I have no charge of 
this CustomAction. I only know this CustomAction should be run only in the 
upgrade. And I have to make it work. :(

I have modified the Registry element and give the condition to the custom as
bellow:

    <Property Id="INSTALLDIR">
      <RegistrySearch Id='ViewPointRegistry' Type='raw'
        Root='HKCU' Key='Software\Microsoft\ViewPointUpgrade'
Name='InstallDir' />
    </Property>

    <DirectoryRef Id="APPLICATIONFOLDER">
      <Component Id="RegistryForUpgrade"
Guid="D555488C-C8E7-44eb-91EC-3750602A7599">
        <RegistryKey Id='ViewPointInstallDir' Root='HKCU'
Key='Software\Microsoft\ViewPointUpgrade'
Action='createAndRemoveOnUninstall' >
          <RegistryValue Name='InstallDir' Type='string'
Value='[APPLICATIONFOLDER]' />
        </RegistryKey>
      </Component>
    </DirectoryRef>

<Custom Action="UpgradeStopServices1" Before="InstallFiles">PREVIOUSFOUND
AND INSTALLDIR</Custom>

The the upgrade is defined in the beginning of the wxs:
    <Upgrade Id="8517ae9a-667d-4bd3-9cea-4323be6d7040">
      <UpgradeVersion OnlyDetect="no" Property="PREVIOUSFOUND"
Minimum="5.0.0.0" IncludeMinimum="yes" Maximum="8.0.0.0" IncludeMaximum="no"
/>
    </Upgrade>

However, when I run the upgrade, install version 2 in PathA, where the version 
1 installed, CustomAction is still not called. It causes the problem for later 
function.

Is there something wrong in Property define, or in the condition for 
CustomAction?


Regards,

Chunyan

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 17:38
An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install

1. Personally, I would highly suggest you change your application so this 
CustomAction is unnecessary. You are in for a world of pain in the long run.
<smile/>
2. The Registry element has been deprecated in WiX v3. The warning tells you 
exactly what to do.

3. You'll have to condition your CustomAction in your first version of your MSI 
to not run on upgrade in the cases you are trying to avoid. If you have already 
shipped the first version of the MSI then you probably have to release a patch 
to that version to add the condition. After the patch is applied then you can 
try the upgrade.

4. See #1. <smile/>


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) < 
chunyan.ji...@ge.com> wrote:

> Although there is Warning message on compile. From the verbose log I 
> got to know that the Custom Action will not be called when install 
> version 2 to PathB.
>
> Howver, there is Remove Action trying to remove files from PathA for 
> version 1 install during installing version 2 to PathB. And Install 
> Validate also checks the files in PathA.
>
> How can I prevent the Remove Action performing on Version 1 in PathA, 
> when install Version 2 in PathB. Should I set the condition 
> "INSTALLDIR" to somewhere, like I did for custom action?
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare)
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 13:19
> An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install
>
> When I searched in Google, I found some one has the same problem as 
> me. And the suggested solution is to define a property using 
> RegistrySearch. And also define a registry with the install path 
> [APPLICATIONFOLDER]. So that the upgrade will only happen when the
registry with path found.
>
> I tried it as:
>
>    <Property Id="INSTALLDIR">
>       <RegistrySearch Id='ViewPointRegistry' Type='raw'
>        Root='HKCU' Key='Software\Microsoft\ViewPointUpgrade'
> Name='InstallDir' />
>    </Property>
>
>    <DirectoryRef Id="APPLICATIONFOLDER">
>      <Component Id="RegistryForUpgrade"
> Guid="D555488C-C8E7-44eb-91EC-3750602A7599">
>        <Registry Id='ViewPointInstallDir' Root='HKCU'
> Key='Software\Microsoft\ViewPointUpgrade'
>      Name='InstallDir' Action='write' Type='string'
> Value='[APPLICATIONFOLDER]' />
>      </Component>
>    </DirectoryRef>
>
> And call custom action as:
>
>      <Custom Action="UpgradeStopServices1"
> Before="InstallFiles">PREVIOUSFOUND AND INSTALLDIR</Custom>
>
> But I got warning when I compile it:
>
>  warning CNDL1080: The Registry element has been deprecated.  Please 
> use one of the new elements which replaces its functionality:
> RegistryKey for creating registry keys, RegistryValue for writing 
> registry values, RemoveRegistryKey for removing registry keys, and 
> RemoveRegistryValue for removing registry values.
>
> And when I install this version 2 installer msi, select PathB, the 
> problem is still there.
>
> Is there something wrong in the Registry define? How to change it?
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare)
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 09:04
> An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Betreff: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install
>
> Hi Wix-users,
>
> I have developed one upgradable installer with Wix3. As I understand 
> that main upgrade is same as new install. My scenario is that my 
> version
> 1 has been installed to PathA. And I have an upgraded version 2. If I 
> install version to to PathA, the old files are removed, the new files 
> are installed. Everything is fine. If I install version 2 to PathB, 
> the new files are copied to PathB, same as new install. It sounds good.
>
> However, there are custom actions in my installer, named MyCA. MyCA 
> should be called only by upgrade. So if version 2 installed to PathA, 
> MyCA in PathA will be called. It is fine. But if version 2 is 
> installed in PathB, MyCA in PathA will still be called. It causes some
problem for PathB install.
>
> How can I make a condition to MyCA, so that it will only be called 
> when the upgraded version installed in it's path? If version 2 is 
> installed in PathB, discard MyCA in PathA, do it same as new install.
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Chunyan
>
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