Yea, I got that, Thanks.
What I meant was that I can use the same Guid for the Product ID and the 
UpgradeCode as the example do.
That way I won't have to open the MSI with ORCA and find the generated Product 
ID Guid.
But anyway, it doesn't help :(
I really don't understand the problem...

I take 2 wixpdb files that where generated during 2 different builds of the 
same product, the later one has a change somewhere in the code.
All I want it to generate the patch, I don't mind if the patch will include all 
the .NET assemblies and not only the changed ones - since I know every build 
they are different.

Thanks for the fast replay - any help will be appreciated greatly!


P.S
I'm trying to find an official Microsoft representative that can grant our 
company (we are a Microsoft gold partner) consulting hours for this issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shirtcliffe [mailto:pshirtcli...@sdl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:35 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

The product code and the upgrade code are 2 different things. Don't mix them up.
You can get the product code from the property table of the original MSI.
Just open it in Orca or InstEd. 
The * means "generate me a guid at build time" - it isn't actually stored as a 
*.

-----Original Message-----
From: tome...@qualisystems.com [mailto:tome...@qualisystems.com]
Sent: 24 January 2012 08:23
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

Hi,
I tried replacing the * with the UpgradeCode Guid.
Still the same errors... I must say the erros seem to be related to the fact 
that the patch.wxs has nothing to do with the build diff.wixmst generated from 
the 2 winxobj...
Anyway I have products installed at customers already with the * in the product 
Id, how do I get the Guid that was generated for those MSIs?
Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shirtcliffe [mailto:pshirtcli...@sdl.com]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:05 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

Have you used "*" as the product code guid ? If so, youll need to change the 
updated MSI's product code to match the originals and rebuild.

Removing a component in a minor update/patch is not allowed. Usually you just 
leave the file there until the next major upgrade. You can also replace the 
file with a zero length file if necessary.

-----Original Message-----
From: tome...@qualisystems.com [mailto:tome...@qualisystems.com]
Sent: 22 January 2012 06:41
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

Hi,
Thanks for the replay, you are right, removing the children from the 
PatchFamily element does include everything.
But now I have a new problems :)
I get this error:

C:\Sample_1>pyro.exe -v patch\patch.wixmsp -out patch\patch.msp -t RTM 
patch\diff.wixmst Microsoft (R) Windows Installer Xml Patch Builder version
3.5.2519.0 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

pyro.exe : warning PYRO1099 : Changing the ProductCode in a patch is not 
recommended because the patch cannot be uninstalled nor can it be sequenced 
along with other patches for the target product.
See http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/aa367571.aspx for more information.
E:\4\139\Sources\Setup\common\Wix\Base\files.wxs(62) : error PYRO0305 :
Removing component 'QsConfig.exe' from feature 'ProductFeature' is not 
supported. Either the component was removed or the guid changed. Add the 
component back, undo the change to the component guid, or remove the entire 
feature.


What does it mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: Blair [mailto:os...@live.com]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:35 AM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

Do you really need to exclude anything from your patch? Do you really need more 
than one PatchFamily? If "no" on both questions then remove all children from 
the PatchFamily element. No references means include everything.

Otherwise you will need to examine the generated WXS files and ensure that the 
IDs are stable and include all of them that you intend to possibly upgrade.

Blair

-----Original Message-----
From: tome...@qualisystems.com [mailto:tome...@qualisystems.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:44 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

Sure.
I got that. I did make sure that the "placeholder" id is the same, but then I 
still get the error.
I'll attack a zip with all the relevant file.
The FoundationClient.proj has all the parameters that are transferred to the 
BaseSetup.wixproj, then with the help of the HeatDirectory I Harvest and create 
the Files.wxs dynamically for each product.
Thanks!

Ask me if something is missing! Don't work too hard to understand, just ask!
:) Thanks again

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Marcu [mailto:peter.ma...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:09 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

The problem is a mismatch between the PatchBaseline you have in the patch wxs 
and the baseline you are specifying to pyro to attach the transform to.
The first argument after the -t is the baseline. If your patch targets RTM 
(your patch will apply to an RTM install) then you should have Id="RTM" for 
PatchBaseline\@Id.

<PatchBaseline Id="SP3" />
-t RTM out\patch\diff.wixmst

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shirtcliffe [mailto:pshirtcli...@sdl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:48 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

The pyro command looks OK. Could you post your torch, candle and light command 
lines and your patch wxs please ?

-----Original Message-----
From: tome...@qualisystems.com [mailto:tome...@qualisystems.com]
Sent: 18 January 2012 08:02
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

Hi,
As far as I understand the pyro command takes the patch.wxs and the diff file 
generated with the torch command. The problem is that the diff file is 
generated from 2 wixpdb files and I don't know how to make my patch.wxs 
compatible... the right ID to pass has something to do with the diff file, the 
example works fine, but when I use the same technique on my wixpdb's I get the 
error mentioned below.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shirtcliffe [mailto:pshirtcli...@sdl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:02 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

That is a example from one of our released products. The Id in the 
patchbaseline is something you invent and only appears otherwise on the pyro 
command line. 
Why do you say that your files are relevant ?

-----Original Message-----
From: tome...@qualisystems.com [mailto:tome...@qualisystems.com]
Sent: 10 January 2012 11:21
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

Yea, that I got from the sample, the problem is that our build.wxs files are a 
"bit" more complicated than the example ones...
We are using HearDirectory to create our file list, and the file list generated 
doesn't have a nice ID that I can reference too...
What I really need is a good example, an example that shows how to work with 
real life scenarios...
Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shirtcliffe [mailto:pshirtcli...@sdl.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 6:02 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

This goes in the Patch element.

      <!-- Id must be higher than any sequence number in the baseline msi's 
Media/File table. Cabinet must match the original cabinet file name. -->
   <Media Id="5728" Cabinet="Product.cab">
      <!-- Id created for the patches' baseline. Referenced in the command 
line. -->
      <PatchBaseline Id="SP3" />
    </Media>

-----Original Message-----
From: tome...@qualisystems.com [mailto:tome...@qualisystems.com]
Sent: 09 January 2012 15:31
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] creating a WIX small or minor patch

HI all,
I'm having problems creating a WIX small or minor patch...
My wsx files that I use to create the installation use HeatDirectory to harvest 
the files I need to put in my MSI (I'm not using cab, it's in a folder besides 
the MSI), anyway, I have 2 versions of the installation MSI and the wixpdb 
files that go along with them, the problem I'm having is creating the right 
patch.wsx to work with the diff.wixmst I create with the torch...
The call to this command:
pyro.exe out\patch\patch.wixmsp -out out\patch\patch.msp -t RTM 
out\patch\diff.wixmst
throws:
pyro.exe : error PYRO0252 : No valid transforms were provided to attach to the 
patch. Check to make sure the transforms you passed on the command line have a 
matching baseline authored in the patch. Also, make sure there are differences 
between your target and upgrade.
And it figures... I don't have an RTM id anywhere... please help...
Any link to a patch.wsx sample with a bit MORE details will be MUCH appreciated.



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