Did you just say I was right?? <smile/>
BTW, you probably don't want to know about the not-a-patch-patch subverted trojan of an MSI we created at my last job. We called it SPAKL because it was like throwing mud on the wall. It had certain limitations but actually did work very well serving the outrageous / immutable business expectations that were thrown at us. Best of all is it partially used WiX / IsWiX to allow for developer self servicing. We just set the patch build up and they maintained it. I never was proud of it and I'd always be clear that people understood that but it did actually "work". ---------------------------------------- From: "Rob Mensching" <r...@robmensching.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:03 AM To: chr...@iswix.com, "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Update to InstallShield installation You are both right. <smile/> Patching should work if you use the same tool to create the target MSI that you used to create the original MSI *and* that tool supports creating new MSIs such that patching works. For the same reason, we do not recommend switching versions of WiX when creating the target MSI. Patching is very finicky. It needs the original and target to match appropriately. Changing versions of tools (or switching tools entirely!) when creating those adds variables most tools don't want to debug. <smile/> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Christopher Painter <chr...@iswix.com> wrote: Funny, I also remember them writing a blog talking about how you could use WiX to author patches for installers that weren't authored in WiX. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/pmarcu/archive/2008/05/30/patching-something-you-did nt-build-with-wix-using-wix-.aspx Otherwise I agree with you. I have no love for MSI's patching model and stick with Major Upgrades almost exclusively. Occasionally I have a valid use case for Minor Upgrades and ocassionally a one off HotFix that needs a patch. Otherwise I'm actually known to turn down side work that involves extensive patch requirements because frankly I'm not interested in it as there's too much other work to be had. If someone wants to tell me that they are a patching sadist with mad skills then I'll be happy to pass these gigs on to you. ---------------------------------------- From: "Peter Shirtcliffe" <pshirtcli...@sdl.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:15 AM To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Update to InstallShield installation With a major upgrade, yes. With a patch... you probably shouldn't. When we made the conversion, we found we could create patches with Wix for the InstallShield installers but they would crash the Windows Installer service when they were applied. The Wix boys have said before on this list that it's inadvisable to create a patch with a different version of the Wix toolkit from the one the installer was compiled with, so swopping products is probably even more inadvisable. 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