If the Bundle is author correctly, you should get those extra files correctly. They are called "layout-only Payloads".
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:20 PM, James Johnston <johnst...@inn-soft.com>wrote: > And the nice thing about an ISO is you get non-essential files as well. > For > example, a readme file - which I highly doubt is included when running > "/layout". > > For example, examining my ISO of Windows Driver Kit 7.1.0 shows some files > which I highly doubt are included in a "/layout" administrative image made. > For example, "Relnote.htm" and "Install.htm". Now I'll probably have to > track down and include these types of files myself. And the ISO format is > also convenient for mounting to a virtual machine... It's much better if a > release team can get these details straight on their own and just do it > once > for everyone, like Chris says. Now my assembled full image is probably > going to look different from someone else's. > > The link to SQL Development Tools is comical. Instead of including a link > to a single file that includes everything, they turned it into a 3 step > process that required a few paragraphs of writing to describe the whole > process. > > If getting off-line images of Microsoft software is now going to include > dropping to the command line to assemble my own "administrative install > point", NO THANKS!! What an unnecessary chore that didn't used to exist. > I > hope someone on the other side of the fence is listening. > > Brings back bad memories of that old Internet Explorer 4 active setup that > didn't always work. Does anybody honestly think that web setup would still > run correctly if used today? I bet all those CAB files it would download > from Microsoft.com are long gone. > > James > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@iswix.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 19:34 > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; General > discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Wow! > > Thankfully those instructions are somewhat easy atleast. Some of these > "how > to create an admin install" are horribly complex. > > > To me, as a paying customer at a very, very large enterprise, it annoys > the hell out of me. Don't make me figure out how to do this for all of the > systems that I support. Just give me a download link to the darn ISO. > Something the build/release team could have done just once and published > now has to be redone over and over by thousands of organizations. > > > I'm sorry, I just don't get it on this one. > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "John H Bergman (XPedient)" <john.berg...@xpdnt.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:04 PM > > To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." > <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Wow! > > > To reinforce a comment earlier about this being Microsoft's apparent > direction as well, The latest SSDT (SQL Development Tools) uses the same > methodology of the /layout switch. > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/data/hh297027 > > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Johnston [mailto:johnst...@inn-soft.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:26 AM > > To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Wow! > > > And this is why there needs to be a simple "off-line bundle" file ready to > download. Seems like it shouldn't be too hard to include in the WiX build > process, and would make a lot of people's lives easier. Realistically, I > don't think there's a better solution than utilizing the built-in file > downloader in a web browser for pulling in the archive. Anything else just > makes it more complicated and unfamiliar for the user... > > > Dog-fooding is a great idea; having a web setup available is a good idea > for that reason. Just don't make this the only option... Here's an idea: > have the capability of providing both web setups and generating premade > off-line bundles ready for download and dog-food that. I'm sure many setup > authors (myself included) will want to provide only premade off-line > bundles, or both premade off-line bundles and web setups (i.e. having more > than *just* a web setup). Dog-food that! :) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 09:22 > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Wow! > > > Interesting discussion. That brought me to the point to run wix36.exe > /layout. As expected in a firewall protected company environment the web > bootstrapper didn't work (see below log). Also I expect different behaviors > in different company environments using different "web download proxy virus > scanners" (or as these things are called). I think doing an implementation > for all that is almost impossible. > > > But what about an approach to spend burn an additional parameter to get a > list of URLs (e.g. /downloadurls ). Imho almost every firewall should be > able to handle manual downloading of MSI files. Not very comfortable but at > least an approach to get an offline image in a company environment... > > > Regards, > > Tobias > > > [1BE8:1094][2012-03-06T10:10:56]: Caching bundle from: > > > 'C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\Local\Temp\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\. > > > be\WiX36.exe' > > to: 'C:\ProgramData\Package > > Cache\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\WiX36.exe' > > [1BE8:1094][2012-03-06T10:10:56]: Registering bundle dependency > > provider: {53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}, version: 3.6.2627.0 > > [1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to send request > to URL: > > http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi > > [1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to send request > to URL: > > http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi > > [1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to connect to > > URL: http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi > > [1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to get size and > time for URL: > > http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi > > [1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed attempt to > download URL: 'http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi' > > to: > > > 'C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\Local\Temp\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\W > > > ix' > > [1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to acquire > payload from: 'http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi' > > to working path: > > > 'C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\Local\Temp\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\W > > > ix' > > [1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Failed to acquire payload: Wix to > working > > path: > > > C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\Local\Temp\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\Wi > > > x, > > error: 0x80072efd. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! > > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is > just $99.99! 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