Sorry for the late reply....  Thanks Rob and Jacob for the advice. 

Once the issue was solved I was curious to know best practice usage.

BTW: I changed my ComponentRef to PropertyRef

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: February-20-2013 6:14 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WixLib not behaving as desired

I think use of PropertyRef is awesome in that case. If you didn't have the
Condition (which uses the Property) I might consider using CustomActionRef
instead. But I like PropertyRef in your case.


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Hoover, Jacob
<jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com>wrote:

> I use lots of externals and fragments, and for my MSI prerequisite 
> checks I have each prerequisite in its own fragment. With this, I 
> simply need to pull it in via a PropertyRef and my MSI ensures the 
> prerequisite is installed.
>
>   <Fragment>
>     <Condition Message="This application requires Microsoft SQL Server 
> Compact Edition 3.5. Please install Microsoft SQL Server Compact 
> Edition
> 3.5 then run this installer again.">
>       <![CDATA[Installed OR SQLSERVERCE35]]>
>     </Condition>
>     <Property Id="SQLSERVERCE35" Secure="yes"/>
>     <CustomAction Id="SQLServerCE35InstalledCA" BinaryKey="Prerequisites"
> DllEntry="SQLServerCE35InstalledCA" Return="check" Execute="firstSequence"
> />
>     <InstallUISequence>
>       <Custom Action="SQLServerCE35InstalledCA" After="AppSearch">NOT 
> Installed</Custom>
>     </InstallUISequence>
>     <InstallExecuteSequence>
>       <Custom Action="SQLServerCE35InstalledCA" After="AppSearch">NOT 
> Installed</Custom>
>     </InstallExecuteSequence>
>   </Fragment>
>
> I have 15 or so prerequisite fragments and a binary fragment within 
> the same file.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:27 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WixLib not behaving as desired
>
> I've yet to see a case where real content didn't exist in a Fragment 
> that could be referenced. <smile/>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Hoover, Jacob
> <jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com>wrote:
>
> > This smells like a need for a FragmentRef, which I currently work 
> > around with a Property in the fragment and a PropertyRef in the 
> > Product to pull in the fragment. Another possible option may be to 
> > reference a component/feature in your Product, but I haven't done 
> > much with wixlib's so I don't know if that is possible.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:01 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WixLib not behaving as desired
> >
> > If references are broken, the linker would tell you it couldn't find 
> > a symbol. I think your issue is the opposite. You don't have a 
> > reference any more. <smile/>  Those DirectoryRef's look like they 
> > probably point back to the Product. What from the Product points into
this Fragment?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Marc Beaudry <mbeau...@matrox.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Keeping in mind I discovered Wix about 2 weeks ago :-)
> > >
> > > I apologize for not completely understanding, wix is new and I am 
> > > still in that learning curve...  Hopefully this snippet helps you 
> > > better understand my issue so I can better understand what is
> happening.
> > >
> > > As far  as I know my references are correct and relatively 
> > > straight forward...
> > >
> > > My lib file contains one big fragment:
> > >
> > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <Wix 
> > > xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi";>
> > >     <?include ..\lInstaller\UserVariableNames.wxi ?>
> > >
> > >     <Fragment Id='FragmentCoreInstall'>
> > >
> > >         <!-- Copy files to desired location using components -->
> > >         <DirectoryRef Id="APPLICATIONROOTDIRECTORY">
> > >         // bunch of files through individual components
> > >        </DirectoryRef>
> > >
> > >        <DirectoryRef Id="ShortcutsMenuFolder">
> > >         // Various application shortcuts to be moved out
> > >        </DirectoryRef>
> > >
> > >     </Fragment>
> > > </Wix>
> > >
> > > I then take this whole section (<DirectoryRef
> > > Id="ShortcutsMenuFolder">) and copy it in Product.wxs right after 
> > > the directory section.
> > > How do I know if the references are not broken?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> > > Sent: February-20-2013 3:28 PM
> > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WixLib not behaving as desired
> > >
> > > References flow from the Product element down. Follow your references.
> > > There isn't enough below to really know what is wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Marc Beaudry 
> > > <mbeau...@matrox.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hopefully this helps shed some light...
> > > >
> > > > In my Product.wxs I define a directory structure.
> > > >
> > > > In my lib I refer to the directory reference. "DirectoryRef"
> > > >
> > > > The component reference in the feature tag is set in the 
> > > > Product.wxs
> > > >
> > > > Directory Element from Product.wxs
> > > >         <Directory Id="TARGETDIR" Name="SourceDir">
> > > >             <Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Name='PFiles'>
> > > >                 <Directory Id='ManufacturerFolder'
> > > > Name='$(var.UserManufacturerName)'>
> > > >                     <Directory Id="APPLICATIONROOTDIRECTORY"
> > > > Name="$(var.UserProductName)"/>
> > > >                 </Directory>
> > > >             </Directory>
> > > >
> > > >             <!-- Step 1: Define the directory structure to where 
> > > > the items are to be located in the start menu -->
> > > >             <Directory Id="ProgramMenuFolder">
> > > >                 <Directory Id="ShortcutsProgramsFolder"
> > > > Name="$(var.UserStartMenuFolder)">
> > > >                     <Directory Id="ShortcutsMenuFolder"
> > > > Name="$(var.UserProductName)"> </Directory>
> > > >                         <Component Id="ApplicationShortcutUninstall"
> > > > Guid="******">
> > > >                             <RemoveFolder
> Id="ShortcutsProgramsFolder"
> > > > On="uninstall"/>
> > > >                             <RegistryValue Root="HKCU"
> > > > Key="Software\Microsoft\[Manufacturer]\[ProductName]"
> Name="installed"
> > > > Type="integer" Value="1" KeyPath="yes"/>
> > > >                         </Component>
> > > >                 </Directory>
> > > >             </Directory>
> > > >
> > > >             <Directory Id="DesktopFolder" Name="Desktop" />
> > > >         </Directory>
> > > >
> > > > Snip it from the lib fragment... that I want to copy out in the
> > > product.wxs
> > > >         <DirectoryRef Id="ShortcutsMenuFolder">
> > > >             <Component Id="ApplicationDesktopShortcut" Guid="***">
> > > >                 <Condition>DESKTOPSHORTCUT=1</Condition>
> > > >                 <Shortcut Id="desktopShortcut"
> > > >                           Directory="DesktopFolder"
> > > >                           Name="Application Something or other "
> > > >
> > > > Description="$(var.UserStartMenuApplicationDescription)"
> > > >
> > Target="[APPLICATIONROOTDIRECTORY]MyBinary.exe"
> > > >
> WorkingDirectory='APPLICATIONROOTDIRECTORY' >
> > > >                     <Icon Id="DesktopIcon.exe"
> > > > SourceFile="SomeIconFile.ico"
> > > > />
> > > >                 </Shortcut>
> > > >                 <RegistryValue Root="HKCU"
> > > > Key="Software\Microsoft\[Manufacturer]\[ProductName]"
> > > > Name="aaaaaaaaaaaaa
> > > "
> > > > Type="integer" Value="1" KeyPath="yes"/>
> > > >             </Component>
> > > >         </DirectoryRef>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> > > > Sent: February-20-2013 3:04 PM
> > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WixLib not behaving as desired
> > > >
> > > > It all depends on what is in your Fragments and what is 
> > > > referencing
> > what.
> > > > My guess is by moving the Shortcut, you removed the reference to 
> > > > oen or more Fragments in you .wixlib.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Marc Beaudry 
> > > > <mbeau...@matrox.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have a lib file that contains a bunch of files and a desktop 
> > > > > shortcut to one of the binaries.  I then have my (product.wxs) 
> > > > > main installation XML file.  My project has a reference to the 
> > > > > lib
> > file.
> > > > > It all compiles and links perfectly. (My MSI is perfectly 
> > > > > functional at this point)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BUT:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If I remove the section that contains the info to create the 
> > > > > desktop shortcut and move it to the Product.wxs, everything 
> > > > > still compiles and links without errors, but the content of my 
> > > > > lib file is completely ignored.  My msi goes from 30MB to 900KB.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Question: Should I be able to take the shortcut section out of 
> > > > > my lib file and put it in my main wxs file?  The reason I want 
> > > > > to do this is the binary name installed will always be the 
> > > > > same but the name to the desktop shortcut is set later through 
> > > > > a variable in a WXI (The contents of the lib remain, but the 
> > > > > shortcut name can change depending on who builds the package) 
> > > > > file which is referenced in the product.wxs
> > > > file.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully this question is clear enough.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the Advice
> > > > >
> > > > > Marc
> > > > >
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