Rob,

 Are there known votive issues other then it's not wired up to VS2013 yet?  
 The reason I ask is because I just setup a VM with  VS2013 and WiX 3.7 and 
was able to perform a few file copies and devenv /setup (may not be needed, 
will reproduce to confirm )  and get the WiX VSIX package to load in 
VS2012.  I just created a setup project and built an MSI.  Not full testing 
but it seems possible barring any other issues. 

Perhaps there are other issues and you know this and have left it out of 
the installer until it's stable?

Regards,
Chris

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 From: "Rob Mensching" <r...@robmensching.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:43 AM
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 
<wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

Yes. Getting into Votive can be daunting. I'm not much help because
I basically know nothing about Votive, I've never worked on it (except to
fix build breaks due to the crazy InternalsVisibleTo attributes I wish
weren't there).

That's why I suggested people could help in other areas. If there were
volunteers helping to fix every single other bug *except* Votive stuff 
then
we'd be in a much better place. Bob calls it pretty straight in his blog
post:
http://www.joyofsetup.com/2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8
/-
"There are no code pixies".

Anyway, my fundamental point is: We will make progress. However, if you're
not helping to fix issues, regularly pinging about progress isn't going to
taken kindly.
PS: I hope the underlying message isn't lost at the end of this thread.
I'll probably need to distill it down to a blog post. Again, thank you to
all of you who have contributed here by answering questions, sending good
bug reports, and, best of all, sending bug fixes and generally helping
improve the WiX toolset. You guys are great. Thanks.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Christopher Painter 
<chr...@iswix.com>wrote:

>
> Rob,
>
>  What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating installers
> that register project and item templates as well as tweaking project
> templates.  I've done a little bit of AddOn work but not much.  The 
whole
> EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few 
things
> that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?
>
>   I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this 
small
> community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin 
back
> or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has
> sailed.
>
> For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET projects 
and
> WiX projects in different solutions so you can port one to the next 
release
> and keep the other on an old but tried and true platform.  That's how I
> roll.
>
> Chris
>
> ----------------------------------------
>  From: "Rob Mensching" <r...@robmensching.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>
> BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support in
> Votive. I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to add
> the
> support or do *something* to take some burden off the people who 
volunteer
> time on the WiX toolset before asking again.
>
> I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do
> work
> for you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests 
actually
> start to *discourage* volunteers from working on the feature for you. If
> the feature gets done it's often in spite of repeated requests, not
> because
> of them. <smile/>
>
> PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago 
so
> I
> apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those of you
> that regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and 
generally
> help make the WiX toolset better, thank you.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/
> > 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
> <alex.ivan...@shavlik.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Albert van Peppen [mailto:alb...@insad.nl]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:43 AM
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> Mainly waiting for VS2013 support.. But I guess that comes later ;)
> >>
> >> Also to update my archive ;)
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Albert van Peppen
> >> ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0
> (January
> >> 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
> >>
> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> >> Verzonden: 25 September 2013 17:03
> >> Aan: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Onderwerp: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> Yeah. There were no changes until late last week. There will be a new
> >> build soon. Were you waiting for those couple changes?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Albert van Peppen <alb...@insad.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hmm, the latest release is still dated August 26, 2013 (WiX
> 3.8.826.0)
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Albert van Peppen
> >> >
> >> > ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0
> >> > (January
> >> > 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
> >> >
> >> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> > Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> >> > Verzonden: 25 September 2013 08:33
> >> > Aan: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> > Onderwerp: Re: [WiX-users] Weekly releases
> >> >
> >> > They should be back now.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
> >> > <alex.ivan...@shavlik.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > When will weekly releases be back?
> >> > >
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