Perfect thanks... -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Wolf [mailto:brw...@jackhenry.com] Sent: April-18-2014 10:10 AM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Preserving Files on Upgrades - CA or no CA
This is the best reference guide on the MSI file versioning rules: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368599(v=vs.85).aspx Some examples here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa371221(v=vs.85).as px -----Original Message----- From: Marc Beaudry [mailto:mbeau...@matrox.com] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 9:05 AM To: 'General discussion about the WiX toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Preserving Files on Upgrades - CA or no CA Hopefully one last question: I added a place holder file and all seems to work well. This is probably a very basic question, but I want to understand something. In an upgrade of a non-binary (non-versioned) files how does windows installer know to keep the file on the system and not replace it with its empty file contained in the MSI. Thanks for the info, Marc -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Wolf [mailto:brw...@jackhenry.com] Sent: April-17-2014 1:47 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Preserving Files on Upgrades - CA or no CA Yeah - generally speaking most people shuffle installation architecture so late in the process they've already implicitly handed off ownership to the installer and there's nothing you can do. Same with deploying the databases, etc. But I can dream of a day... -----Original Message----- From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:38 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Preserving Files on Upgrades - CA or no CA You're saying that the application generates the files, so they are already the property of the app's code so maybe a CA is the better solution rather than trying to hand them over to Windows to deal with. Transferring ownership is often a problem. Assuming I understand the issue: I would make empty config files part of the install so that Windows Installer owns them. The app then updates them. On an uninstall they would be removed. On an upgrade with RemoveExistingProducts at the end they would be preserved (because of having the same component guids) but not overwritten because of the file overwrite rules. That would be an installer way that wouldn't involve any code except changing the app to update existing files rather than create them, assuming a late REP works for the product upgrade. --------------- Phil Wilson On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Bryan Wolf <brw...@jackhenry.com> wrote: > You could also schedule the RemoveExistingProducts action later in the sequence. You lose several advantages of major upgrades and pretty much absolutely have to follow component rules closely as if it were a minor/small upgrade but it is an alternative to the preserve & restore pattern. > > Alternatively, you could control configuration files in the > application itself instead of using WiX as an omniscient application manager. In this way, you could just pass app.exe /majorupgrade or app.exe /uninstall or app.exe /install and have the application "make it happen" (tm). This is my own personal preferred way to do it because you can use a configuration management class within the class so config file upgrade management requires no maintenance. > > YMMV as always :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Beaudry [mailto:mbeau...@matrox.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:19 AM > To: 'General discussion about the WiX toolset.' > Subject: [WiX-users] Preserving Files on Upgrades - CA or no CA > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I found tons of answers to this problem, but I have a hard time > believing that CA's are the best way to resolve this. I am far from being a WIX expert so I would appreciate a second opinion on this one. > > > > I have an application that generates configuration files during > execution, I want to preserve these files on upgrades and completely remove them on a full uninstall. > > > > Using and RemoveFile and RemoveFolder I am able to completely remove > all the application generated files, if I add an execution condition > to my component something like > > <Condition>REMOVE="ALL" AND NOT UPGRADINGPRODUCTCODE</Condition> > > The files never get uninstalled. > > > > Are properly sequenced CA's backing up and restore files the correct > way of preserving files, or is there a "more" WIX way of doing this???? > > > > Thanks for your expert opinion, > > Marc > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph > Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. 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