Thank David yes I agree with what your saying. I am a bit concerned the 
3rd party wouldn't like our bundle 'wrapping' and hiding their ARP 
entry. Is it possible to only hide the bundles entry?

dotNetInstaller looks good. (I was worried it was C# but the 
bootstrapper element is C++) . Ta

On 09/07/2015 10:44, David Watson wrote:
> Hi,
> Experience has taught that the best experience for the user and for the 
> developer and the support organisation is to follow the way that the burn 
> bundle works, it has been very carefully designed.
>
> Fire and forget bootstrappers are an alternative (I used to use this many 
> years ago http://dblock.github.io/dotnetinstaller/)  and are still widely 
> used.
>
> A single point of entry in ARP that allows your user to control the contents 
> of the bundle is much simpler to support than a whole array of packages.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt O'Connell [mailto:techsupport...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 09 July 2015 10:06
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrap conditioned on OSbittage
>
> Well I only need to install one 3rd party installer based on os bittage.
> On x64- install a_64.exe else install a_32.exe I don't require downloader, 
> and chainer engine for that.
>
> If I can use the burn chainer to do this AND get an effectively 'invisible' 
> ARP for the un-avoidable bundle that would be 'ok'. If this is possible I'd 
> like to know how. But am also looking for alternatives to WiX's current 
> offering and thought this would be an ok place to ask, since the experience 
> level here is so high!.
> Thanks for your help on this.
>
> On 09/07/2015 02:16, Hoover, Jacob wrote:
>> My first question would be "why".  What do you need to do that you can't at 
>> least allow your bundle be in the chain and let burn do its work before 
>> deferring to your final exe installer?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matt O'Connell [mailto:techsupport...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:41 PM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrap conditioned on OSbittage
>>
>> Sorry guys can I get some advise on this one please?
>>
>> I realise burn can't 'fire and forget' see
>> http://www.joyofsetup.com/2013/07/05/burn-zero-one-or-n/
>> but what (free) methods are there available to do this? Can anyone 
>> reccommend something?
>>
>> Alternatively is it possible to bundle (and conditionalise) the exes but 
>> hide the bundle's ARP entry and expose the third party exes ARP entries? If 
>> so could the user could use that to repair/uninstall so it effectively 
>> wouldn't appear that the package had been 'bundled'?
>>
>> Many Thanks
>>
>> On 17 June 2015 at 12:36, Matt O'Connell <techsupport...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've got a third party exe with 2 versions to bootstrap based on OS
>>> bittage, our current setup code only does this for MSIs. I've found
>>> how to do this with burn bundle but don't need the bundleness of it
>>> as per this
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30010837/i-dont-want-install-a-boo
>>> t strapper-project-itself What would you guys recommend for this use
>>> case?
>>>
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