Hello John, I forgot to remind you incase you didn't see the email from a couple of days ago -do *not* include patch number 9 from the original series I submitted. It crashes the WPrefs.app when the menu editor panel is selected. The original author claimed that it fixed ammeory leak when staring multiple items from the menu. I didn't really check that out, but I did discover that it crashes WPrefs.app. I tried a couple of different ways to implement it, but they all crashed WPrefs.app. Someone else may be able to follow up on the original problem and fix it right. The funnction it patches is only called from two places -one in wmaker and the other in WPrefs.app. Gilbert
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