On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Gilbert wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:39:33 +0200
>
> Dan Pascu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Nicolas wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > >> Bug #149898 has been open for years in Debian BTS. This bug is a
> > > >> request from someone who would like to hide the application
> > > >> icons.
> > > >
> > > > I'd say that is a feature request, not a bug.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry if you felt offended, entries in Debian BTS are called
> > > "Bugs". I wrote "a request from someone who would like", it seems
> > > clear enough that this is a wish, and not a non-working feature of
> > > WindowMaker.
> >
> > Relax. Nobody is offended. I just made an observation. While debian
> > may classify it as it sees fit, it's a feature request, not a bug.
> >
> > > >> Would it be a solution to ignore the no_appicon flag for
> > > >> dockapps? It seems sensible to do so,
> > > >
> > > > Do you know of a way to differentiate between a dockapp and a
> > > > non-dockapp?
> > >
> > > Dockapps are applications with withdrawn windows only (this is the
> > > criterion used to deactivate the icon sharing for dockapps, see the
> > > section of the NEWS file about release 0.80.0).
> >
> > If things were that simple. Unfortunately there are other reasons an
> > application may have withdrawn windows than being a dock app. GNUstep
> > used withdrawn windows for something as well if I recall correctly.
> >
> > The point is you already have the mechanism to accomplish what you
> > want, only that is not automatic and you have to manually configure
> > things, or use a collapsed clip. Unless there is a clear indication
> > that something is a dock app (like a unique property set for it),
> > there is no way you can automate it. The withdrawn window is not such
> > a property, it's just something that all dockapps have, but that's
> > not what defines them as dockapps and it's not unique to them.
> >
> > --
> > Dan
> >
> >
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> Dan,
> Can you clarify what I was asking about -that some DockApps set the
> window call to DockApp and others set it to the same as the calls name?
> Which of these ir supposed to be right? And does this have somthing to
> do with libdockapp? It seems to me that some DockApps were using one
> setting for compatibility with libdockapp before it was integrated into
> libWUtils (or is it libWINGs?). As I mentioned before I use a lot

libdockapp is a completely different project written by someone else. it 
has no relation with WINGs. You have to ask its authors.

> DockApps which I have patched to all set the window class to "DockApp"
> and I have noticed nothing unusual. In fact, it lets me completely
> disable the Clip and Dock and disable all miniwindows and AppIcons and
> still have the DockApps show on the desktop in the area where AppICons
> would usually show.
>
> As far as I can see, this gives the best of both worlds -except that it
> depends on patching many DockApps to conform to that behaviour. But, I
> believe that most many, if not most, DockApps are simply outdated
> -there are still some which try to link directly to libdockapp when
> they could simply link to the libs include with wmaker. If we knew
> which is the correct case, we could move ahead more confidently with
> patching any and all DockApps which are of interest. I think it is in
> the interests of wmaker itself to encourage(if not directly host),
> repositories of workign DockApps which have been updated and/or checked
> for compatibility with recent versions of wmaker.
>
> Thanks,
> Gilbert



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Dan


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