begin  quoting Jason Brower as of Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:43:38PM +0200:
> Would it be possible to actually do some effects in the desktop.  In  

s/desktop/manager/

> it's day the effects it did were host stuff.  Remember solid windows  
> when moving was an effect.
> It would be nice to have things like:
> * Push Window to edges of screen to fill halves of the screen. (And seen  
> the animation of it!)

I've seen folks who depend on this. I generally don't like resizing things
once I've gotten everything arranged, but that just means I don't have to
use it.

> * Alt tab shows actual windows rather than icons.

This might prove potentially useful, so long as we offer a way to disable it.

> * Shadow on windows and grouping of windows.
> * Icon or cool notifications in the Iconfied windows.
> * Sliding effect when moving between desktops
> * Logout and login fadeout and fade in.
> * Fade-in and out of icons on close and open
> * Softer edges on window borders
> * fade-in or fade our on window open and close or other effect

Meh.

Some of these I've seen in other environments, and I've mostly found them
annoying.

> I know many of you like the snapy feeling of this desktop.  But these  
> effects can be done without compromising alot of processer. Effects can  
> help the user better feel in control of there environment and that's  
> what I want to see.  I am not saying we need a framework with piles of  
> effects and options.  But on and off would satisfy both worlds.
> What are the groups thoughts on this?

I'd like to be shown how some proposed effect or another actually makes my
system more *useful*.

Fades aren't all that useful[1] -- they're just ways of consuming time.
Showing scaled-down windows is useful when trying to select between
different windows on a cluttered desktop. Hesitating at a screen border
is useful as it helps mitigate the imprecision of a mouse. etc. etc.

> Next wasn't made to be the same forever, it was made to be the next  
> thing in the computing world.  I feel changes like this help use get in  
> the right direction.

My suspicion has been that NeXT involved a lot of design and weighing of
tradeoffs, not just "what cool think can we do now?" -- but I have no
actual confirmation of that.

-S.

[1] At least, not that I can think of.  I'd love to hear an argument for
how they'd help me do something better.


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