On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:05:56 +0200
"Anselm R. Garbe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I doubt the usefulness of those tiny tray icons in KDE.
> They are hard to click, because they are too small. They don't
> tell me much, because an icon has different meanings in
> different cultures, and to render them, KDE has several 100kSLOC
> dependencies. Even assumed one would only support xpm's, they
> don't add much benefit.

I don't want to protect tray icons in KDE, because about every little piece of 
code claims the need for a tray icon ;)
But it is not true that icons can't tell you much. I only had a basic course of 
biology in school, but about everyone who is interested in that area will tell 
you, that icons, symbols and images are something that the human brain is great 
in working with. About every language I suppose has the saying »Ein Bild sagt 
mehr, als tausend Worte.«, an image tells more that one thousand words.
Yes, one can abuse images, to create bon-bon-coloured LSD worlds on your 
desktop, but used with thought they can provide a great means of displaying 
various information very quickly. That there are culturally different meanings 
for symbols is true. Though there are notions that every human brain shares, 
everyone using wmii or at least a computer would understand a well designed 
symbol ;) (even easier than the English language I want to claim.)

Nonetheless, to design good symbols is no trivial work. If you don't do it 
well, you really end up in KDE or Windows XP. Finding a good middle-way is, as 
always, trump.

> In contrast to this, text tells you exactly what a label is
> about and the label-based colorization allow you to
> differentiate warnings, from informational purposes - if you're
> going to monitor several stuff.

Text may be exact, but there are more often situations where you don't want to 
care about details, and as I already stated, an image can have more meaning 
than a whole sentence. Given that screen real estate is scarce and expensive 
(there were discussions about cycling bar labels! WTF oO), this turns out to be 
quite a big benefit. Also, it can give you needed information much more quickly 
than any text ever can. Two simple examples that directly come to my mind for 
when images excel text:
See your inbox. You pretty much don't care if there are 10 mails in your inbox, 
or just one. If there is at all, you are going to read it no matter how much 
they are, don't you ;) So, displaying a small »letter« symbol in the bar draws 
your attention quicker to itself than »You got mail«, »inbox: xx« or whatever, 
which also disturbs your worklflow more! (of course, if there is /always/ a 
letter icon in your bar that gets lit or altered, the effect is smaller, but 
this would be not very thought-out to do something like that!)
Or, see a traffic graph. You can display the current network load as a absolute 
number. Or you could display a small graph. A graph is much easier on brain 
cycles! In addition, it displays the network load's course. You /immediately/ 
see if there's a peak, a change, or a DDOS/Windows box connected to the LAN ;) 
Of course you can have several cycling labels or some other ugly insanity. But 
I don't have to explain how that would be.

So, there is room for images in a usable window manager. Not in a minimalistic, 
but in a usable. And wmii surely concentrates on usability (which most of the 
time /is/ minimalism, but not here!), at least so I hope.

Greetings,
Denis

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