Hi Lawrence, I appreciate your concerns and agree with your plan - lets wait for legal-discuss before we remove or add any more W3C files. Err that means someone's got to post Graham's question. It's late here, I'll do it in the morning if no-one else has.

Thanks,
Jeremy

On 10/19/06, Lawrence Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jeremy,

I just want to ensure we've got all our legal "i"s dotted and "t"s crossed. I've had some trouble in the past (admittedly with Eclipse not Apache) with including files in the repository or a distributed package. These problems forced my project team to make some very last minute changes to a release and clean up the content in our repository. I don't want to repeat the experience. :)

Let's leave the files in the repository for now until Graham's enquiry to Apache legal is answered. Once we know more we can choose an appropriate course of action - if any action is necessary.

(BTW, I don't think there is a difference whether the files are in our repository or bundled in a distribution as either way the files can be obtained from Apache, which as I understand it means Apache is redistributing them. Of course I'm not a lawyer I'm just going on my past experience wrt using third party content in open source projects.)

Thanks,

Lawrence



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On the Monday telecon we discussed [1]:

Graham will investigate any Apache process that needs to be followed
to bundle the W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas with Woden.

IMHO redistributing the schemas in our milestone releases is different
to just including them in SVN for testing purposes. The wsdl schema
has actually been in SVN since Feb for this this purpose, but isn't in
the distribution.

Since Graham's patch included another copy of the wsdl schema (and
others) I committed it to where his patch had it rather that try to
consolidate with the one under the ant-tests directory. Hence JIRA
WODEN-64 to tidy this up.

As we agreed on the call, figuring out whether we're able to bundle
the schemas in Woden is the topic of Graham's (soon to be posted)
email to legal-discuss.

Do you have extra concerns? Do you think we should ask legal-discuss
to gain approval for putting W3C licensed files into SVN? There are
many instances of W3C licensed files e.g. [2] and others in that
directory. The files in the directory of [2] are also shipped in a
source form in Xerces. So I think there is plenty of precedent for
allowing these files in Apache SVN but it's good to check with
legal-discuss that we're doing the right thing w.r.t. bundling the
files in our distribution.

Cheers,
Jeremy

[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xml/commons/trunk/java/external/src/org/w3c/dom/Attr.java
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Date: Oct 19, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files
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   [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64?page=comments#action_12443537
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Lawrence Mandel commented on WODEN-64:
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I'm a little surprised to hear that these files are in Woden's
repository. Although I'm no legal expert I think that we need to clear
up any legal hurdles to redistributing these files. (From past
experience at Eclipse, without permission to redistribute the files we
shouldn't even have them in our repository.) Graham is currently
looking into this issue.

> Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> -----------------------
>
>                 Key: WODEN-64
>                 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64
>             Project: Woden
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Jeremy Hughes
>            Priority: Minor
>
> WODEN-14 introduced some test cases for URI resolution (as well as the URI resolution code itself). Included in those test cases are:
> wsdl20.xsd wsdl20-extensions.xsd wsdl20-http.xsd ws20-instance.xsd wsdl20-rpc.xsd wsdl20-soap.xsd
> which are also in the ant-tests directory. We should refactor so there is only one copy

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