On 11 May 2010, at 15:07, Copeland, Bryan wrote:
Kris,
When you mentioned building your own file-based solution it made me
think of the growing "no-SQL" movement. I wonder if it might be
useful to leverage yet again another Apache project, Cassandra:
http://cassandra.apache.org/
For "very large-scale" systems (and likely much more complicated),
is Apache Hadoop:
http://hadoop.apache.org/
Probably most know about these, but they are examples of key-based
and graph-based storage systems, respectively... Document-based
approaches already exist too, so it may make sense to leverage the
work done by the CouchDB team:
http://couchdb.apache.org/
Just thought I'd share that as the first two projects, and Wookie,
are currently the three up and coming Apache projects my
organization is tracking most closely. I'm not sure who will win the
"efficiency/lightweight data store war", but in the end, an approach
which offers options and flexibility for datastore configuration
will probably be the nicest for the community, but, most difficult
to accomplish because of the differences between RDBMS and Graph-
based camps, perhaps Document-based might be a nice middle-ground
though?
Thanks for that, will add them to the list of possibilities on the
wiki. These look very interesting. Best for us is to find something
that slots in easily replacing the current db middleware that we are
using taking issues of robustness, extensibility, load handling and
licensing into consideration. Will be spending some time on this over
the next few days tinkering and evaluating
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Popat [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: May 11, 2010 5:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: important todo: remove hibernate (was Re: Fwd: Several
podling reports still missing at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2010
, due today)
On 11 May 2010, at 09:21, Scott Wilson wrote:
On 11 May 2010, at 09:16, Ross Gardler wrote:
On 11/05/2010 09:05, Scott Wilson wrote:
I've updated the report here:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2010#Wookie
+1 to your report.
A busy quarter.
I'm largely silent at present due to spending all my time on
http://www.transfersummit.com
(people should come, it's a great conference).
Once that's out of the way I want to really crack on with getting
rid of hibernate so we can get a release out the door. In my
opinion, we need a release to really start building community.
Of course, if someone wants to get cracking on that before me I'll
gladly start a branch for that work and keep it aligned with trunk
for you (asuuming you are not already a committer).
Yes, that's pretty much the last hurdle.
Kris, were you going to put together a list of candidates for
replacing Hibernate on the wiki?
Yes I've looked through some options a couple of weeks ago, will pick
it up again and put some ideas up.
It might be worth testing a file based solution that I've been working
on too. I'll put a patch up for people to test in a few days time.
Will need testing for robustness and speed.
Ross
Kris
