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On 8 Apr 2011, at 08:22, Scott Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 8 Apr 2011, at 07:40, Jean-Noël Colin wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott, 
>> 
>> We're together with Tien wondering about the notion of widget instance and 
>> that of a session. 
>> 
>> A widget instance is identified by the idkey, which is specific for an api 
>> key, shared data key, widget id, user id. This means that if I can get hold 
>> of the idkey, I can access the widget instance, even from outside the 
>> original environment. 
>> 
>> If we think of widgets that give access to privileged services, like access 
>> to the iTec registries, this becomes a security problem, because if my idkey 
>> gets stolen, someone else could pretend being me. 
> 
> To be honest I'm torn between thinking of this as a bug or a feature.

Its a feature. 

I want to be able to have the same widget instance in multiple locations. Not 
different users, but same user different locations. 

Any solution needs to accommodate this feature, not break it. 

> 
>> One way to solve this would be to go beyond the widget instance, and have a 
>> notion of session, which means that even if someone else gets my idkey, he 
>> would still appear as a different session; if oauth tokens are managed on 
>> the basis of a session, then, stealing my idkey would not compromise access 
>> to the services.
> 
>> 
>> Of course, this poses the issue of token management.
>> 
>> We are thinking of different solutions: one would be to use one-time idkey, 
>> rather than permanent one, so that if an idkey gets stolen, nothing gets 
>> compromised. So basically, the idea is to integrate the notion of session or 
>> to have a one-time handle to widget instances, renewed on every request.
>> 
>> What do you think about this? Does it make sense? 
> 
> I think these sound like interesting ideas - however can we have the best of 
> both worlds? Widgets that are simple to embed outside their original context, 
> but still protect user's privileged service access?

Session alone is no good for this because If I close one session all keys get 
invalidated. That is unless we think of a session as being a widget session 
rather than browser session. 

Ross

> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> ---
>> Jean-Noël 
>> 
> 

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