Well, Now its looking like the deal between Wachovia and Wells is on
hold(Thanks to Citi!)

I heard that in the last month Retirement accounts have lost two
trillion dollars, Im sure I heard it wrong and I don't have the time
to look it up.  I sure hope I heard wrong!


This is affecting everyone? I mean people in other countries?



On Oct 5, 8:13 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not very familiar with US regulatory systems, including the FDIC.
> I guess that you are right, the FDIC controls the big banks as much as
> the FDA controls Pfizer or Monsanto. I guess that it happens in most
> countries.
>
> I guess that the Fed (and the Treasury) can controls banks closer
> because they depend on the Fed much more, more in the short term and
> it is related to business. Anyway, as I told, I am not familiar with
> regulatory systems in your country.
>
> Also, I guess that your question comes about the role that the FDIC
> can play in the Wachovia deal, whether its influence can be relevant
> or not. A lawyer would say that it is just a legal process and
> everything depends on the contract that Citi and Wachovia have in
> place. In my opinion, in this sort of deals, politics plays a crucial
> role. I cannot say which one, Citi or Wells, have a better position
> among all parts (Fed, Treasury, FDIC, etc.), sorry. Even if the issue
> is arranged in a court, it might change later by agreements among
> banks and authorities.
>
> Anyway, I do not think that this deal takes too long to reach its end.
> In my opinion rather weeks than months. Right now, the last thing that
> the banking system needs is uncertainty.
>
> I wish that Charlotte keeps as many jobs as posible, I keep crossed my
> fingers.
>
> Peace and best wishes.
>
> Xi
>
> On Oct 6, 12:45 am, "Mercury.Sailor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In addition to its powers of insuring bank and savings and loan
> > deposits, the FDIC regulates the banking industry and may, after
> > proper notice and a HEARING, discontinue its insurance coverage if a
> > bank engages in overly risky banking practices. When this happens, the
> > FDIC requires the bank to provide timely notice to its depositors of
> > the termination of FDIC coverage.
>
> >http://www.enotes.com/everyday-law-encyclopedia/fdic
>
> > It sounds like the FDIC sort of acts the way the FDA in regulating
> > buisness.
>
> > "discontinue its insurance coverage if a bank engages in overly risky
> > banking practices"
>
> > Now why did the FDIC fail and allow banks to continue in engaging in
> > risky loans? Was this bailout planned?
>
> > On Oct 5, 6:37 pm, "Mercury.Sailor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > FDIC Mission, Vision, and Values
>
> > > Mission
>
> > > The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) is an independent
> > > agency created by the Congress that maintains the stability and public
> > > confidence in the nation’s financial system by insuring deposits,
> > > examining and supervising financial institutions, and managing
> > > receiverships.
>
> > > Vision
>
> > > The FDIC is a leader in developing and implementing sound public
> > > policies, identifying and addressing new and existing risks in the
> > > nation’s financial system, and effectively and efficiently carrying
> > > out its insurance, supervisory, and receivership management
> > > responsibilities.
>
> > > Values
>
> > > The FDIC and its employees have a long and continuing tradition of
> > > distinguished public service. Six core values guide FDIC employees as
> > > they strive to fulfill the Corporation’s mission and vision:
>
> > >http://www.fdic.gov/about/mission/index.html
>
> > > As FDIC chairman, Powell traveled to the Gulf Coast region in the
> > > aftermath of the hurricanes in order to assess the damage to banks and
> > > other financial institutions and systems.
>
> > > A native of Texas, Powell served as the president and CEO of The First
> > > National Bank of Amarillo before being appointed to head the FDIC in
> > > 2001. Powell also has served in various community and public service
> > > positions, including chairman of the Board of Regents of Texas A&M
> > > University, chairman of the Amarillo Chamber of Commerce, member of
> > > the City of Amarillo Housing Board and member of the boards of High
> > > Plains Baptist Hospital and the Harrington Regional Medical Center.
>
> > > Powell is a longtime friend and political supporter of President
> > > Bush.
>
> > >http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/powell_11-01-05.html
>
> > > The FDIC employs approximately 8,000 people throughout the country.
> > > The headquarters are in Washington, D.C., but regional offices exist
> > > in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Kansas City, Memphis, New York
> > > City, and San Francisco. In addition, field examiners, whose job is to
> > > conduct on-site inspections of banks, have field offices in 80 more
> > > locations throughout the country.
>
> > > The FDIC has JURISDICTION over banks in the 50 states, the District of
> > > Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands. It regulates
> > > banks, enforcing rules such as the Equal Credit Opportunity Act that
> > > prohibits certain forms of DISCRIMINATION in lending, and inspects
> > > banks to be sure they are operating profitably and legally.
>
> > >http://www.enotes.com/everyday-law-encyclopedia/fdic
>
> > > On Oct 5, 5:30 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > To be honest, about FDIC, I just know its mission, to grant that
> > > > savers receive their money back in case of banruptcy until its top
> > > > limit, if I do not recall wrong it is $100,000 but they want to rise
> > > > it up to $500,000. I do not think that FDIC can control banks too much
> > > > in USA, it uses to be a job of central banks.
>
> > > > As far as I know Wachovia has the same problems that most US banks
> > > > right now, not more, not less. It is sad because when leading
> > > > companies in a sector do something wrong, is difficult for smaller
> > > > companies not to do the same, because they could not compete with the
> > > > large ones. But when the time to pay for the wrongdoings come, the
> > > > large ones can survive easier than the smaller ones.
>
> > > > In my opinion, this is a terrible crisis that more or less will have
> > > > negative influence on everybody around the world. More for some people
> > > > than for others. More for the same people who always lose during
> > > > crisis.
>
> > > > Thank you for sharing that the company your SIL works for is not
> > > > having any problems, Because they did not make bad loans. I really
> > > > hope that they got ready for the bad times ahead during the good ones
> > > > as much as posible. Let us hope that most people are ready to face it.
>
> > > > Peace and best wishes.
>
> > > > Xi
>
> > > > On Oct 5, 9:47 pm, "Mercury.Sailor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Well, That does NOT sound very good to me.
>
> > > > > I think everyone in my city has been taking sleeping pills this past
> > > > > week,
> > > > > Because we depend so much on Wachovia for jobs!
>
> > > > > How much do you know about the FDIC? I read that Bush did appoint the
> > > > > head of the FDIC in 2006. How much control does the FDIC have
> > > > > over banks? Are they partially at fault for not doing something
> > > > > sooner?
>
> > > > > I was at my brothers house last night, I was chatting with my
> > > > > SIL (She works as a product mgr. for a National Mortgage Lender)
> > > > > After talking with her, I guess I am going to put some blame on the
> > > > > lawyers. When a new home-buyers purchases a new home, They
> > > > > hire a lawyer because of all that mumble jumble paper work. That
> > > > > attorney is supposed to be in the best interest of the client. Even
> > > > > though my SIL is very involved in the mortgage industry she still
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > understand all of the aspects of it... Its like when she and brother
> > > > > bought thier first home, They had no idea what papers were being
> > > > > shifted across the table. It is the same with all first time home
> > > > > buyers, Thats
> > > > > why we hire attorneys!  The company my SIL works for is not having
> > > > > any problems, Because they did NOT make bad loans.
>
> > > > > So, Now I blame the greedy predatory loan sharks and the attorneys
> > > > > that were hired by the homebuyers and the FDIC!
>
> > > > > On Oct 5, 12:31 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Troubled times for the banking system. It seems to me that they are
> > > > > > creating two or three superbanks, or super financial institutions 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > wipping out the rest, except regional and niche groups.
>
> > > > > > Than you very much for your post Mercury. It is extremely valuable
> > > > > > information.
>
> > > > > > Peace and best wishes.
>
> > > > > > Xi
>
> > > > > > On Oct 5, 3:20 pm, "Mercury.Sailor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > 800 Billion dollars to save banks from bankrupt, Yet the FDIC 
> > > > > > > forces
> > > > > > > Wachovia to sell, This doesn't make sense. Which banks are 
> > > > > > > getting all
> > > > > > > of these BILLIONS????
>
> > > > > > > This is a very big concern for the people in Charlotte, Including 
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > as our 401k is managed by Wachovia. My husband has a buisness 
> > > > > > > account
> > > > > > > with Wachovia but our personal account is with a credit union.
>
> > > > > > > The good news for Charlotte, NC is that WellsFargo outbidded Citi 
> > > > > > > Bank
> > > > > > > and bought out Wachovia, This will save A LOT of jobs in 
> > > > > > > Charlotte.
>
> > > > > > > Well, Those greedy bastards at Citi!
>
> > > > > > > N.Y. court blocks Wachovia/Wells deal
>
> > > > > > > A N.Y. judge has put a temporary hold on Wells Fargo & Co.’s 
> > > > > > > proposed
> > > > > > > $15.1 billion buyout of Wachovia Corp., Citigroup announced 
> > > > > > > Saturday
> > > > > > > night.
>
> > > > > > > Judge Charles Ramos of the N. Y. Supreme Court has ordered 
> > > > > > > Wachovia
> > > > > > > (NYSE:WB) to court on Friday. He will hold a hearing on whether 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Wells deal violates Wachovia's earlier agreement to sell its 
> > > > > > > banking
> > > > > > > operations to Citigroup for $2.16 billion.
>
> > > > > > > Until then, his order issued stops Wachovia and Wells from
> > > > > > > consummating the deal.
>
> > > > > > > The Wachovia/Citigroup deal was brokered Sept. 29 with the help of
> > > > > > > federal regulators. Citigroup (NYSE:C) says it includes
>
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