Our business has fallen off a cliff. Sales are worse today than they
were in the couple of months after 9/11, and they were terrible then.

On Oct 16, 9:30 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My comment: I cannot judge yet, but please read the thread
> Deflationary recession or 
> Hyperinflation?http://groups.google.com/group/world-thread/browse_thread/thread/cb4a...
>
> Inflation in U.S. Wanes; Consumer Prices 
> Unchangedhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akY6AvvvuDp0
>
> Oct. 16 (Bloomberg) -- The cost of living in the U.S. was unchanged in
> September, restrained by declines in fuel costs, automobile prices and
> airline fares that show the slowing economy is starting to cool
> inflation.
>
> The Labor Department's consumer price index was unchanged after a 0.1
> percent drop in August; economists had forecast an increase for last
> month. So-called core prices, which exclude food and energy, rose 0.1
> percent, also less than forecast.
>
> Today's figures show that for the first time in two years, prices
> didn't increase for two straight months. Waning inflation gives
> Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke scope to lower interest rates
> further as policy makers attempt to unfreeze credit markets.
>
> ``It'll give the Fed a little bit of cover to cut rates when they meet
> next,'' on Oct. 28-29, John Ryding, chief economist at RDQ Economics
> in New York, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television.
>
> Treasury securities, which had fallen earlier in the day on signs of
> easing pressures in money markets, remained lower after the consumer-
> price report. Yields on benchmark 10-year notes were 4.02 percent at
> 8:43 a.m. in New York, from 3.95 percent late yesterday.
>
> Economist's Forecasts
>
> Consumer prices were forecast to rise 0.1 percent, according to the
> median forecast of 75 economists in a Bloomberg News survey. Estimates
> ranged from a decline of 0.3 percent to a gain of 0.2 percent. Costs
> excluding food and energy were forecast to rise 0.2 percent, the
> survey showed.
>
> Prices increased 4.9 percent in the 12 months to September after a
> year-over-year gain of 5.4 percent in August. The core rate increased
> 2.5 percent from September 2007, the same as the year-over-year
> increase in the prior month.
>
> Separately, the Labor Department said initial jobless claims fell last
> week as job losses related to the Gulf Coast hurricanes subsided,
> while total benefit rolls rose to the highest level in five years.
> First-time applications declined by 16,000 to 461,000 in the week that
> ended Oct. 11.
>
> Some companies are cutting prices to entice cash-strapped consumers
> who are limiting purchases to essential items such as food and fuel.
>
> Record Decline
>
> Energy expenses dropped 1.9 percent, led by the biggest decrease in
> the cost of natural gas on record. Gasoline prices fell 0.6 percent.
>
> Oil prices have kept coming down this month. Crude oil futures on the
> New York Mercantile Exchange dipped below $75 a barrel yesterday after
> averaging $103.76 in September.
>
> The consumer-price index is the last of three monthly price gauges
> from the Labor Department. The CPI is the government's broadest gauge
> of costs because it includes goods and services.
>
> Prices paid to U.S. producers fell for a second month in September,
> the first back-to-back drop in two years, the government said
> yesterday. Import costs last month decreased by the most since April
> 2003, Labor figures showed last week.
>
> Food prices, which account for about a fifth of the CPI, rose 0.6
> percent for a second month.
>
> New-vehicle prices dropped 0.7 percent, the most since August 2005,
> and air fares fell 1.7 percent, the biggest decline since November
> 2006.
>
> Earnings Weaken
>
> Today's figures also showed wages were unchanged last month, after
> adjusting for inflation, following an increase of 0.6 percent in
> August. They were down 2.5 percent over the 12 months to September.
> The decline in purchasing power is contributing to the slowdown in
> consumer spending.
>
> The Commerce Department said yesterday retail sales dropped in
> September by the most in three years.
>
> Mattel, the world's largest toymaker, said this month that most of its
> holiday toys will cost less than $20 to help lure shoppers who are
> cutting back on spending.
>
> Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said this month it will cut prices ahead of the
> holiday season, offering 10 items for $10 each.
>
> Hotel companies are struggling as consumers pull back on spending.
> Marriott International Inc., the biggest U.S. hotel chain, said in a
> statement that a measure of rates and occupancy will ``at best'' fall
> 3 percent in North America in 2009.
>
> The effects of the deepening credit crisis on the economy will cause
> the unemployment rate to keep rising for another year, reaching 7.3
> percent by the last three months of 2009, said Maury Harris, chief
> U.S. economist at UBS Securities LLC in New York. The rate was 6.1
> percent last month, matching a five-year high.
>
> ``This is something that is impossible to turn around right away,''
> Harris said in an interview on Bloomberg Radio yesterday.
>
> On Oct 8, 5:31 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Finally the lack of trust (the wallet is smarter than the mind) led
> > the storm in the banking system in USA, wipping out many players, and
> > then to the rest of the world with more or less consequences depending
> > on the economic area.
>
> > This, combined with the current economic war for global influence, has
> > created a chaos as collateral damage. We are into the same phase yet,
> > fall of purchasing power and fall of confidence.
>
> > Fed Tries to Find What Works in Mess: John M. Berry 
> > (Update1)http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=anlb12f2CT7s
>
> > On Sep 9, 9:15 pm, "Xi Ling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > LOL.I laugh with you at your last comment.
>
> > > (((((Mrs. R.)))))
>
> > > Thank you very much for your message,.It is smart and clear.
>
> > > I cannot disagree. In addition, obviously, you know your country and your
> > > people, while I do not. I just see their economic environment.
>
> > > There is a rate that more or less describes the circumstances for the 
> > > people
> > > that you mean. It is called "pain and misery index". I enclose it here.
>
> > > As you can see, regarding this topic, the current situation in USA is 
> > > close
> > > to those in 1935 (great depression) and 1915 (WW1) and, for example, far
> > > from the prosperity that US economy lived between 1945 and 1970.
>
> > > That chart comes from
>
> > >http://www.nowandfutures.com/key_stats.html
>
> > > It takes official information and completes it. What they called without
> > > lies. LOL
>
> > > Anyway, with or without lies, the current situation of those people is
> > > severe. Right now, almost as severe as the most severe situation that US
> > > economy has known in the last 100 years. And we cannot forecast anything
> > > that eases it. On the contrary, it is worsening month after month. And 
> > > more
> > > and more people are entering into that group. I cannot do much for many, 
> > > but
> > > maybe I can do something for some to prevent them to fall into that
> > > category.
>
> > > Related that group of people, you touch a topic that has a technical name,
> > > asymetric information, and that I care very much. Prof. Joseph Stiglitz 
> > > (and
> > > others) won the Nobel prize by challenging the "perfect market" with his
> > > models about those asymetries. Not everybody has the same information when
> > > they face economic decisions, That corrupts markets and moves economies
> > > toward wrong situations where everybody (even those with accurate
> > > information and smart decission logic) suffer the consequences. According 
> > > to
> > > those models, Adam Smith, Milton Friedman among many others were wrong, 
> > > the
> > > "perfect market" does not exist and the mundane markets (the real marets
> > > where rel human beings make real economic transactions) do not tend to
> > > balance as text books told and tell yet in some countries.
>
> > > The fall of trust on US treasuries that I posted in this thread is 
> > > serious,
> > > extremely serious. It is an early sign, it could be fixed. Let us see if
> > > somebody does it. Trust is difficult to gain, more when it is related to
> > > money.
>
> > > Again, thank you very much for your message.
>
> > > Peace and best wishes.
>
> > > Xi
>
> > >  US_pain_misery_index.png
> > > 17KViewDownload
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