My comment: I quote "Saudi Arabia needs oil prices of less than $30 a
barrel to balance its government budget, according to Merrill Lynch &
Co. estimates. The United Arab Emirates requires $40 a barrel and
Qatar $55.

Iran, with double the population of Saudi Arabia, has a breakeven
point of about $100 a barrel, according to Edward Morse, managing
director and chief economist at Louis Capital Markets LP in New York.
In Venezuela, where President Hugo Chavez's government is spending oil
revenue on social programs, the figure is about $120, he said."

Something like that happens with Russia.

That is what Americans and Europeans are really paying for and this is
the short term reason that deepened the banking crisis. That is behind
the rise of the US dollar. And that is behind the scarcity of US
dollars in markets.

OPEC Risks Split on Cuts as Economies Reel, Oil Drops (Update1)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=avyteJ5WWJ1c

Oct. 22 (Bloomberg) -- OPEC, founded five decades ago to unify oil
producers, risks dividing members as the group plans to cut output and
raise prices just as developed nations face their worst recession
since 1983.

Iran's energy minister, Gholamhossein Nozari, said yesterday OPEC may
slash output quotas by 2.5 million barrels a day, or 8.7 percent, an
amount about equal to what's pumped from Kuwait. The Algerian minister
and OPEC president, Chakib Khelil, said two days earlier the reduction
at the group's Oct. 24 meeting in Vienna may be only 1 million
barrels.

The debate in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries pits
Saudi Arabia, the group's biggest producer and a U.S. ally, against
Venezuela and Iran, two nations that oppose U.S. foreign policy and
advocate higher oil costs. Crude has plunged 53 percent from its July
11 record of $147.27 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. It traded at
$69.37 today.

``The divisions arise in OPEC because what countries need and want
varies,'' said Gareth Lewis-Davies, an oil analyst at Dresdner
Kleinwort Group Ltd. in London. ``The Saudis are playing a long-term
political game. Other countries have higher costs.''

Saudi Arabia needs oil prices of less than $30 a barrel to balance its
government budget, according to Merrill Lynch & Co. estimates. The
United Arab Emirates requires $40 a barrel and Qatar $55.

Iran, with double the population of Saudi Arabia, has a breakeven
point of about $100 a barrel, according to Edward Morse, managing
director and chief economist at Louis Capital Markets LP in New York.
In Venezuela, where President Hugo Chavez's government is spending oil
revenue on social programs, the figure is about $120, he said.

Below $50

Oil options trading shows the probability that crude will fall below
$50 a barrel by June has more than doubled in 10 days, Deutsche Bank
AG said in an Oct. 17 report. There is a 9 percent likelihood that
June 2009 crude oil contracts will expire below $50, up from 4
percent, Deutsche said.

The world's industrialized economies will expand next year at the
slowest pace since 1982, the International Monetary Fund said Oct. 8.
Growth will weaken to 0.5 percent in 2009, from 1.5 percent this year,
sending U.S. unemployment to its highest level in 16 years, the agency
said.

Oil demand may fall for the first time in 15 years this year as the
worst financial crisis in decades tips economies into recession,
according to the Centre for Global Energy Studies, a London-based
consulting company.

U.K. Recession

Bank of England Governor Mervyn King said yesterday Britain's worst
banking crisis since World War I is likely to push the economy into a
recession, requiring policy makers to act ``promptly'' to prevent
inflation from slowing too much.

``OPEC members have completely different agendas,'' Merrill Lynch
analysts led by Francisco Blanch said in an Oct. 20 report. ``History
shows that it is difficult to maintain discipline in a falling price
environment, and OPEC cohesion has already started to decline.''

Eleven years ago, OPEC members bickered about output quotas as oil
slid 28 percent in 10 months amid the onset of the Asian financial
crisis. At a meeting in Jakarta in November 1997, they raised quotas,
ignoring the turmoil that slowed Asian economies and cut oil demand.
Prices fell another 44 percent by December 1998 to below $11 a
barrel.

``OPEC members are worried that they will be slow to react and oil
prices will drop to $50 or $40 a barrel,'' said Rick Mueller, director
of oil markets at Energy Security Analysis Inc. in Wakefield,
Massachusetts.

1990s Effort

After the late 1990s price drop, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela and non-OPEC
nation Mexico led efforts to cut production to boost prices.

``The death of OPEC typically comes up as a question or a theme at
times when prices are falling dramatically,'' said Tim Evans, an
energy analyst at Citi Futures Perspective in New York. ``It is
exactly at those moments when the OPEC membership tends to recognize
that they need to come up with a combined response to the market.''

``There is a consensus to reduce production, but there is no agreement
on how much to cut'' on Khelil said on Algerian television Oct. 19.

Saudi Arabia, where officials haven't made any comments before this
week's meeting, is likely to resist a cut of more than 1 million
barrels because it's conscious of the political response in the U.S.
and other consuming countries, said John Sfakianakis, chief economist
at Saudi British Bank in Riyadh.

King Abdullah

``I don't think we will see a 2 million-barrel cut, given the reaction
that this will have both by the market and by the politicians,''
Sfakianakis said in a phone interview.

Saudi King Abdullah said at a June 22 oil summit in Jeddah that the
world's largest oil-exporting nation seeks ``reasonable'' prices to
producers and consumers.

U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown said last week that it was
``absolutely scandalous'' that OPEC is considering cuts as the global
economy risks falling into a recession.

OPEC should maintain oil production, allowing global stockpiles to
build as a cushion against supply disruptions, the International
Energy Agency's executive director, Nobuo Tanaka, said in Moscow
today.

At OPEC's last meeting in September, the group's members agreed to
adhere more strictly to production quotas, trimming output by about
500,000 barrels a day.

Above Quota

Saudi Arabia produced 9.45 million barrels a day in September,
according to Bloomberg estimates. Its output target is set at 8.94
million barrels. Iran, OPEC's second-largest producer, trimmed
production by 130,000 barrels to 3.95 million barrels day, close to
its quota of 3.82 million barrels, according to Bloomberg estimates.

Saudi Arabia will probably forge a compromise for production cuts to
be taken over coming months instead of all at one time, analysts
said.

``Everyone recognizes that oil needs to be taken off the market,''
Morse said in a phone interview. ``If they cut a million, they will
almost certainly have to go in for a second round of cuts.''

OPEC members will meet again in Algeria in December.
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