Thank you very much Sumerian. Your message and your example, cats and
rats, clearifies a lot.

This fight is much more clear in USA than in Europe and, of course,
than in Japan where that fight does not exist nowadays.

Let me start with a question: Who is in charge in a bank, i.e. in Citi
group? its owner or its CEO? the families that control 30% (or above)
of its capital with political rights? or the high executives? Who
makes the big decissions?

Some people might say: Owners do, they can fire executives if they
want. Other people might answer: legally owners do, but in fact,
executive do everything and decide everything as long as owners
receive their profits. A third group of people might answer: who
cares? they always agree.

My answer is that it is not clear nowadays who own banks, carmakers,
or any other corporation unless those that are based on founders and
their families. But it is more clear in banks.

And more important. They disagree because they have different
interests, different goals, and different strategies. They fight for
the power to make those goals come true.

We should not use the word "they". Which of those two groups are
"they"?

As usual, this is not a fight for wealth, it is a fight for power. For
the absolute power to make their goals to come true. And their goal is
power.

It reminds the fight in England 300 years ago between conservative
landowners (rural aristocracy) and emerging capitalists (urban factory
owners). Now it is a fight between capitalists (bigger shareholders)
and emerging executives. 300 years ago in England some landowners
became capitalists, now some capitalists become executives and some
executives become capitalists, those corporations where owner and
executive is the same person look more stable (Microsoft and Gates
till one year ago, Berkshire and Buffet, etc.).

It is not a global fight. In some countries power is clear (China,
Russia).  In other countries that fight is not in place (Japan,
Saudia). In other economic areas (Eurozone) that fight is just
starting. That fight is clear only in USA.

As landowners in England 300 years, nowadays capitalists control
formal institutions (Bank of England, Fed, etc.), the institutions
that formally control their economy. Executives control Wall Street.

Which side will support Main Street? any? Maybe this time Main Street
can make a difference, maybe Main Street can create their own economy
this time.

This is part of the transiton phase between one civilization and the
next one. Time of turbulence.

China is just a spectator of that fight.

Peace and best wishes.

Xi

Somehow this is a reply to your message, Sumerian, in

Cats to eat rats, then rats to eat some cats
http://groups.google.com/group/world-thread/browse_thread/thread/46e22e0fbeade876/c8194716918fbeea?hl=en#c8194716918fbeea


And it continues a message I wrote long ago where I said that The
corporation, as we knew it, is dead.

Reform? Revolution? Or something deeper? (For Sumerian and anybody
interested)
http://groups.google.com/group/world-thread/browse_thread/thread/ee58bd164f23d858/46fadab36cc2089b?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=corporation+is+dead#46fadab36cc2089b


















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