Astonishing story about captain R. Thank you for posting Sumerian. Peace and best wishes.
Xi On 27 dic, 11:38, "Sumerian.." <sumerian...@yahoo.com> wrote: > PS: In the Arab world, especially on the daily dialoge the term JEWS is > linked to Israelis. Sadly the term: Zionists is not showed as it should be. > Israel Shamir lives in Israel, and it looks he is affected by this mixing up > between JEWS and ZIONISTS. We Arabs don't have troubles with Jews. They lived > with us for several thousands of years together. Our problem is with the > English who brought eastern Europeans and established a cartoon state called > Israel. S1000+ > > From Israel Shamir > > Dear friend, > best regards from Ankara, the capital of Turkey, where I am now at a > conference on Palestine, together with wonderful Cynthia McKinney and other > good > and great persons. Turkey is changing its course, from very pro-American and > pro-Israeli to more independent, and subsequently less zionized. > > The Turks > are proud of the brave stand of their prime minister for Palestine and against > an Israeli leader at Davos last year, and they consider it a pivotal event. > > Turkey is changing from violently secular, anti-religious, so 1940s > Kemalist regime, but there are still a lot of vestiges, as huge portraits > of the supreme leader are still hanging on the capital buildings while student > girls in headscarfs are being frowned upon if not actually forbidden to enter > university. Though kemalism was supposed to be the proponent of modernisation, > it is so dated, so old-fashioned! There is nothing more dated than yesterday's > modernism. In Russia, they took this sort of portraits down in 1955, and even > Taiwan removed its Chiang Kai Shek portraits in 1980s. > > Surely it is not only portraits that annoy. They have a Supreme Court which > tried to outlaw the majority ruling party because its very soft Islamic > leanings > do not agree with strict kemalism. It seems that Turkey's parliament has > still much work to do on the way to democracy - they should downgrade > their unelected Supreme Court, bring army and intelligence generals into > obedience, provide for religious freedom for majority Muslims. But first, > they should remove American military bases and kick NATO out. In an > interview to a Turkish newspaper I called Turkey "to make peace with its own > past" - the splendid past of the Caliphate, the ruler of the East, the head of > the Muslim believers and the protector of the Christians. > > Here is the talk I give today with its advices What To Do in > Palestine: > > What to Do > in and about Palestine > > Israel Shamir’s Talk at the Ankara > Conferencehttp://www.israelshamir.net/ English/Turkey. htm > > Dear Turkish friends and fellow > guests from abroad, > > I am glad to speak again to you, the > people of our great neighbour and former sovereign Turkey . > Your latest developments inspire optimism. You are doing fine! > Turkey is growing stronger and more > independent; your leaders’ obsession with joining the European Union has been > exorcised. You have restored the power of the parliament, bridled military > excesses, streamlined your economy and improved relations with > Syria and Iran . > > Turkey is no longer an American > colony. You stopped joint air force exercises with Israel and the US . You > expressed your clear anger over the horrors of Gaza . Now you pay more > attention to the area > where you live; you play an important role already and are destined to play an > even greater role. So much depends on you! We feel it every day in Palestine . > > > I will not waste your time > describing the horrors of Zionist rule in Palestine . You already know them, > you’ve seen > them on TV – dreadful pictures of burned schools and napalmed children, of the > Gaza blockade, > of check points, of night arrests. It is now exactly one year since the Jewish > onslaught on Gaza , last year's Christmas war > which Israel began while the world was > holidaying. > Your president, Mr Gul, said a few days ago to our president, Mr > Peres, that he will not visit Israel while the siege of Gaza continues, and > that > was a very good decision. Indeed, it is urgent to lift the Gaza siege, > because no building materials are being allowed > to enter Gaza > for the repair of homes. Instead, the Israeli siege is being tightened with > active help of Egypt . > > However beyond Gaza problem we must look > for a bigger picture. > > We are being told that the Gaza problem is that of Hamas intransigence, that > it is > Gaza ’s own > fault. If only Gaza wouldn’t embrace radical > Islam , Israel would accommodate Gaza ’s needs. > > Let us have > a look outside of Gaza , at the West Bank’s jewel, > el Bireh, the twin city of Ramallah , the seat of Israel-approved ruler > Mahmud Abbas. This is a most prosperous city of wonderful villas with a lot of > greenery and purring Mercedes cars, and a beautiful view. El Bireh decided to > build a football stadium; they asked for money and they received funds from > France , Germany and the > World Football Association, FIFA. The football stadium was built within the > city > of el Bireh 's > limits. Immediately, the Israeli court ruled: the stadium must be destroyed, > because it is within the > eyesight of a Jew. > > Do you understand this? Mahmud Abbas > is the most compliant Palestinian leader now or ever; he is doing everything > that Israel asks. His police kindly > retreat when Israeli security jeeps drive into his cities to arrest whomever > they wish. He arrests every activist who speaks against Israeli excesses. He > even fired the most senior Palestinian diplomat, Dr. Afif Safieh, the former > ambassador to Washington , London , Vatican and Moscow > because he spoke out against the Israeli war on Gaza . > > Every Islamist, every supporter of Islam > in the West Bank is (or was) in Abbas’ jail. > > Abbas is an implacable enemy of radical Islam. You can’t be more conciliatory > towards Israel than Mahmud Abbas. And still, > he can’t even build a stadium for kids to kick ball in his own city, because > the > Jews will not allow it. > > So, although Gaza is in a dreadful situation, the problem is not only > Gaza . Islam or > not Islam is not even a question we should be pondering. It makes no > difference. > Islamists are in Abbas’ jail, yet Abbas can’t even build a stadium. Stadium, > not > medreseh ( =School in Arabic S1000+). > > Fatah member Marwan Barghuti and leftist PFLP leader Ahmed Sadat are > in Israeli jails together with Hamas MPs. > > The problem is the Jewish state. Not > only does it besiege Gaza and destroy a football stadium in el > Bireh. These are local problems, painful but local. The Jewish state (It is > not a Jewish state. It is a Zionist state. S1000+) focuses > Jewish power all over the world into action. Without a Jewish state, this > power > would disperse; it would remain local, it would remain chaotic, probably it > would be subdued by the forces of assimilation. Israel focuses > these chaotic forces and concentrates them into action. > > This action is against Islam. Not > only against Islam, but Dar ul Islam (the Islamic world) is a prime target. In > the US , the Jewish Neocons > led their country into a crusade against Iraq and Afghanistan ; now they are > spearheading the push > against Iran > . They have formed a powerful > front against President Obama and have turned him into a laughing stock after > he > uttered a few words of wisdom about Palestine . > > In Europe , if you inspect the coffers of anti-Muslim neo-Nazi > groups, you'll find that they thrive on Jewish support. In Russia , Jewish > nationalists and Zionists try to rally the Russians against their Muslim > brethren. Sometimes they do it under cover of the Russian Church , or of > Russian nationalism. I wrote > about this recently, as I had discovered that the most fervently anti-Muslim > forces in Russia are organised by > crypto-Zionists. > > Even if a Palestinian state were to > be established and recognised, it wouldn’t stop Israeli attempts to undermine > its neighbours, to bomb Iran , > to sow the seeds of discord from Russia to France , from Turkey to India . > Israel 's too powerful intelligence > services would keep meddling. Neither would it neutralise the armed forces of > Israel , and you know as well as > anybody that the generals do not give up their toys, their privileges or their > influence easily. The Israeli military machine is so powerful that it would > seek > to exercise its might. > > Remember the Israel-Egypt peace treaty: when it was > concluded, the first thing Israel did was invade Lebanon . > > > The bad influence of Zionism on Jews > all over the world would not vanish in case of a “two states’ solution. > > In 1920, > Winston Churchill published an article (Illustrated Sunday Herald, > February 8, 1920, pg 5) > titled: «Zionism or Bolshevism». (http://www.library. flawlesslogic. > com/ish.htm ). There he noted that many Jews > tend to embrace the cause of social equality (for him it was “impossible > equality”), and the best way to stop by far too dynamic and powerful Jews from > promoting equality is to infect them with Zionism. His project was supported > by > the might of the British Empire and by money of > wealthy anti-equality Jews. > Zionism won. Equality was defeated. If we defeat > Zionism, equality will have another chance. And a two states’ solution will > not > defeat Zionism. > > In short, even if Mahmud Abbas’s > dream of limited independence were to be realised, it wouldn’t be good enough > for the region, and it wouldn’t be good enough for the world: Israel > in its form of Jewish-supremacist state can’t become a peaceful neighbour. > > > Supremacism leads to wars. Only a > democratic state, the successor of Israel and the PNA, would be able to > live in peace. Compare it to South > Africa : as long as it was a white-supremacist state, it was > the source of warfare and trouble all over Africa . After its supremacism was > exorcized, it became > peaceful. In the same vein, independent Palestine > would be just another Bantustan of the type > rightly rejected by South Africans. > > But I do not think that even this > very limited cause of limited independence for Palestine is likely to be > achieved. > > We have > been told – for sixteen years! – that there is a peace process that will lead > to > a “two states solution”. This is a fairy tale. If the Jews will not allow even > the most loyal and obedient of el Bireh’s kids to play football, do you think > they will allow them to have an independent state? Why would they? > > > The Jews write frequently of how > they envisage Palestinian independence. (I refer here to the most enlightened > left-wing Jewish politicians! ) They speak of a Palestine broken into a few > enclaves surrounded by a wall and barbed wire, its airspace and all of its > borders controlled by Israel; its water to remain under Jewish control. And > this > is the best they can dream of. > > If you want to have Two States, it > can happen only if the Jews plead for it like they did in 1947. They did so > then, and they will do so again only if they feel that the alternative, a > single > democratic state for all inhabitants of Palestine , is on the table. This is > what they > are afraid of: full democracy, full equality in the whole of the land. So even > for practical reasons, we should call, not for independence of some > partitioned > bits and pieces, but for the whole lot: Let Palestine be united, let all of > its > inhabitants have equal rights, and afterwards they can discuss two states for > ever and ever. The first thing is equality, the rest can wait. > > > Speaking frankly, this mythic Two > State Solution can’t even be envisaged. Jews and Palestinians live all over > Palestine , and they can’t be physically separated > without a huge turmoil that would remind us of 1921 in Turkey and Greece , > with Turks leaving Salonika and Greeks > leaving Smyrna . > This is not something one would like to see happen. > > The West gave Nansen his Nobel Peace > prize for the transfer of Greeks and Turks. In my view, this was a terrible > calamity, never to be repeated. Partitions are awful; it is like sawing a > living > man into two parts. Nor is it necessary. Greeks and Turks could live together > as > they did for four hundred years; separation did nothing good for them. > Separation of Israelis and Palestinians would be equally evil. > > > Now, Zionists often remind Turks of > your so-called “Kurd problem”. This comparison is wrong, because every Kurd in > Turkey has Turkish > citizenship and has all the rights every Turkish citizen has; while > Palestinians > usually have no citizenship of the state of Israel and enjoy > no rights. But in one sense this comparison is right: it is impossible to > separate Kurds from Turkey , > because people of Kurdish descent live everywhere from Diyarbakir to Istanbul > . Likewise, it is impossible to > separate Palestinians from the immigrant populations which are called “Jews”. > > > Indeed, the whole story of Palestine is a story of > immigrants taking over a country. Such things happen: immigrants from > Britain took over North > America and Australia . This is a sad thing, but > it happened. Now it is not realistic to hope that they will sail back to > England – they won’t. It is wrong to > try and create an “independent state” for the native Americans – such > independent states are called “reservations” . The right answer is equality > for > native and immigrant alike. Some Jews would complain that they want a state of > their own. We shall answer them: you have built on sand, and a house built on > sand can’t stand forever. If you want a state of your own without anybody > else, > find yourself a lonely uninhabited island. Palestine was, and is, populated; > the best you can > wish is to be equal citizens in Palestine with everybody > else. > > I spoke about this solution in the > year 2001, when our country was torn by intifada al Aksa. It was right then, > and > it is right now. At that time I said: there is no other solution but a > one-state > solution. People, and even good people, activists, friends of Palestine said: > no, we are > very close to the two states’ solution. I did not believe it then, I do not > believe it now. There is only one good way out, and that is the way of > equality > and democracy, of deconstructing the Jewish state by forcing it to give full > rights to all Palestinians under its rule. > > So this is the goal we should strive > for: full equality and integration of Palestine > and Israel , South African style. Nothing > less. > > This does not mean that there is > nothing to be done until that moment. Turkey can do a lot even now, even > today, beyond expressions of solidarity. The Jewish state is a horrible > example > of injustice gone unpunished. For instance, an Israeli officer Captain R > murdered a 13-year old girl, Iman al Hams. He shot her within eyesight of his > soldiers and said that even a three-year-old Palestinian should be killed if > she > comes close to Jewish positions. The Jewish court absolved Captain R of all > guilt; the Israeli Army promoted him to major and another court awarded him > damages for the mere discussion of his crime. Last week, yet another Jewish > judge gave another huge compensation to the > same murderer. > > Turkey, as the former ruler of Palestine , could fill in > the void of justice by bringing this Captain R to trial. Sooner or later he > will > leave the sanctuary of the Jewish state and travel somewhere for a holiday. A > Turkish warrant for his arrest should await him wherever he goes. And not only > him, but the Jewish ‘judges’ who covered up his crime and became accessories > after the murder should be tried too. This is not a job for amateurs, but for > a > state with all its tools. If present Turkish law does not allow for this, let > the law be updated by taking a leaf from the Israeli book. According to > Israeli > law, if a Turk does wrong to a Jew in Turkey , he may be snatched, arrested, > tried and > punished in Israel . Turkey should > introduce a symmetrical law, covering offences against Palestinians who > otherwise are not protected by law. > Turkey could also take the initiative to > stop the still looming Israeli-American aggression against Iran . If they do > take Iran , > Turkey will be encircled and cut off. > The fate of Palestine also depends on the fate of > Tehran . > > > My New Year's wish to you: be > yourself, be Turks, and live in harmony and friendship with your neighbours, > with Russia , > Iran , Syria , Greece and with all the successor states of the > Ottoman Empire . You are needed for the world > and for Palestine . > > ======= > S1000+ > ======= > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, Israel Shamir <a...@israelshamir.net> wrote: > > From: Israel Shamir <a...@israelshamir.net> > Subject: [shamireaders] Regards from Ankara, from Israel Shamir > To: "readers" <shamiread...@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 10:23 PM > > < -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "World-thread" group. To post to this group, send email to world-thr...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to world-thread+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/world-thread?hl=en.
