That is very strange. I have a 2.5 installation working with the following wp_list_pages and wp_list_categories calls (working correctly) in the theme:

<?php wp_list_pages('title_li=&depth=1&include=6,5&sort_column=menu_order'); ?>
        <?php wp_list_categories('hide_empty=0&depth=1&exclude=1&title_li'); ?>

Possibly adding the hide_empty or depth parameters to your calls would help?
        
My 2.5 installation also is using custom field key/value pairs in both posts and pages, without any trouble, and using them for custom displays from a plugin without any trouble.

Anyway, I don't think it's the wp_list_pages and wp_list_categories functions in 2.5 that are the problem, or the key/value pairs in 2.5 that are the problem. Have you tried using the default theme, just adding your wp_list_pages or wp_list_categories calls to the sidebar, to for sure eliminate any strange programming your theme might be doing? And do you really have *all* plugins disabled?

The only other difference is that it was a 2.5 bleeding installation originally, not a database upgrade from 2.1... you may have a bug there, but I cannot imagine how it would screw up the include/exclude of wp_list_pages or wp_list_categories.

    --Jennifer


[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visions wrote:
<ul id="navigation">
<?php wp_list_pages('title_li=&include=2,4');?>
<?php wp_list_categories('title_li=&include=7');?>
</ul>

Changing "include" to "exclude" has the same effect - it's basically ignored.

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Jennifer Hodgdon * Poplar ProductivityWare
www.poplarware.com

Drupal/WordPress Sites, Themes, Modules/Plugins
Custom Web Programming, Web Databases
Modeling/Analysis/Palm OS Software

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