Gene and Rick,

I have to agree with Rick in this case. If I were running both Akismet and something like Defensio at the same time then your point would be valid. A bit like the old "standard" of runnning Akismet and "Bad Behavior" together. Regarding that, WP SpamFree and Aksimet also work in two completely different (and compatible) ways; Akismet using an off-site service and SpamFree being strictly "on-site". Even SpamFree's author recommends running Akismet to pick up anything that SpamFree might miss if the user chooses to do so.

Be that as it may, I agree that there are more different configurations of WP setups/Server/host setups out there than you could possibly count. Still, other WP folks besides myself seem to be having the same problem, the problem has not occured with previous versions and 2.6.1 (current builds) seems to eliminate the problem so will this will probably end up as "just one of those things". The ironic thing is that most problems of this nature are usually accompanied by several solid error callouts or at least something rather obvious to start troubleshooting with. This is more like a ghost in the maching type of thing. I'm still looking though.

Rick Beckman wrote:
Running both WP-SpamFree&  Akismet isn't a waste; if anything, it's smart or
at least smarter. Spam free blocks a lot of spam, but if it comes from a
human, it's pretty ineffective. In that event, Akismet is there to catch
what gets through.

--
Rick Beckman
http://rickbeckman.org/
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On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Gene Steinberg<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

On Aug 2, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Kirk M wrote:

  Another thing worth noting was that deactivating all the plugins sped
things up quite a bit with 2.6 however, doing the same thing in 2.6.1, the
difference in speed of the Admin is negligible whether all plugins are
activated or not. The admin remains quick and responsive. The only solid
thing I can say at this point is that no matter how I reactivated the
plugins as in what order, one at a time, separate groups of plugins,
whatever, the ultimate result was the more plugins that were activated, the
slower the response of the Admin. The 2.6.1 builds do not exhibit this
problem at all and neither did 2.5.1. The only other thing I can say for
use now is that the more the 2.6 Admin was used, the slower it got.

And just to say I did, here's a list of the current plugins on all 3 sites
(updated to the latest version of course):

This may not mean much, since configurations can vary tremendously.

I have 24/25 plugins running. I can send you the list if you wish, but I do
run many of the ones you have.

I'm using 2.6, release version, and I have not tried any of the 2.6.1
betas.

I do not have any slowdowns, Google XML Sitemaps handles my blog in 2.05
seconds, based on current testing.

Oh yes, other than its simple contact manager, I fail to see a
justification for running two spam filters. Either take Akismet or
WP-SpamFree. Running both is an absolute waste, like running two virus
detection utilities on a PC.


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