Ok so:
* <div class='wp-submenu-head'>..title..</div> is seemingly non-needed, I removed it and it doesnt seem to affect anything.. Probably a use for it somewhere. Confuses screen readers since it duplicates the menu title (Which is a link just above it) * No title attribute on links makes it hard to determine menu action, Suggestion: ...title="Links: Add New">Add New</a * JS disabled = interface unuseable - I dont see a problem at all without JS.. I've done it many times, Aside from not being able to access the menu's without clicking into a different page (What do you expect?), there doesnt appear to be much of a backstep there, barely any problem at all.. can you enlighten me? * with CSS disabled, the Turbo/Help/Screen options appear between the menu and the content.. Who uses without CSS these days? What screen reader is not smart enough to determine menu and main content? Is there anything which can be done to help direct screen readers as to what is a menu, and what is content? * I'm no accessability whiz, or UI designer, I suck at both, I'm just trying to understand the issues you're outlining :)

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:18:36 +1100, Elpie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Some of those links are just not clickable with JavaScript off
unfortunately.

On 2.6.3 the backend is still fully functional without js, and
although the backend is loaded with three repeats of the Google Gears
message at the top, its still navigable with CSS off. The Google Gears
messages are a nuisance, but all links to actions are meaningful and
not likely to cause confusion.

In 2.7, apart from loss of functionality, the dashboard screen
reads ...
"Add new post, add new page, comments" right below the "welcome
username, turbo, logout". Then it gets really confusing..
"Dashboard - dashboard - dashboard- askismet stats-posts-posts-add new-
edit-tags-categories-media-media-add new-edit" etc etc.
Every top-level menu title is repeated and none of the links have
titles (which make all the "edit", "add new" and other repeated
phrases difficult to interpret).

Between corporate clients who have JavaScript disabled at the firewall
and disabled folk using assistive technologies, either I (or someone)
will have to write a new admin theme that completely changes the
current output or these folk will have to stay with 2.6.3 until
changes are made in the future.

The old UI was not great and had its problems, granted, but the new UI
is really problematic. I personally love the fact that its now quicker
to add new posts and am pleased that the threaded comments and backend
admin of comments is available, but such heavy reliance on Ajax
combined with loss of accessibility is a real problem.

On Nov 16, 12:39 am, DD32 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:23:29 +1100, Elpie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like I have to write a new admin theme anyway as the default is
> really convoluted for users where JavaScript is turned off. (Have to
> click on a top-level link, which opens a new post/page screen, just to
> get the other options to be seen).

Well, That was a problem under the old design too, But a <10 line plugin  
should be able to override the CSS and force them all open 100% of the  
time if need be.
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