No, these are acts of adolescents playing grown-up.

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From: "Alan Sondheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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We _are_ grown up. This is us.

Alan


On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Joel Weishaus wrote:

> It's not about numbers, but that violent solutions to human conflicts have
> gone on too long.
> When do we grow up?
>
>
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> 39,000 Iraqis killed in fighting - study
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> Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:43 PM BST
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> By Irwin Arieff
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> Reuters UK
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http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticleSearch.aspx?storyID=191558+11-Jul-2005+RTRS&srch=death+iraqi
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> UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Some 39,000 Iraqis have been
> killed as a direct result of combat or armed violence
> since the U.S.-led invasion, a figure considerably
> higher than previous estimates, a Swiss institute
> reported on Monday.
>
> The public database Iraqi Body Count, by comparison,
> estimates that between 22,787 and 25,814 Iraqi
> civilians have died since the March 2003 invasion,
> based on reports from at least two media sources.
>
> No official estimates of Iraqi casualties from the war
> have been issued, although military deaths from the
> U.S.-led coalition forces are closely tracked and now
> total 1,937.
>
> The new estimate was compiled by the Geneva-based
> Graduate Institute of International Studies and
> published in its latest annual small arms survey,
> released at a U.N. news conference.
>
> It builds on a study published in The Lancet last
> October, which concluded there had been 100,000 "excess
> deaths" in Iraq from all causes since March 2003. That
> figure was derived by conducting surveys of Iraqi
> mortality data during the war and comparing the results
> to similar data collected before the war.
>
> The government rejected The Lancet's conclusions
> shortly after their publication.
>
> The Swiss institute said it arrived at its estimate of
> Iraqi deaths resulting solely from either combat or
> armed violence by re-examining the raw data gathered
> for the Lancet study and classifying the cause of death
> when it could.
>
> Its 2005 small arms survey generally concludes that
> conflict deaths from small arms have been vastly
> underreported in the past, not just in Iraq but around
> the globe.
>
> The total number of direct victims of such weapons
> likely totaled 80,000 to 108,000 during 2003, for
> example, compared to earlier estimates by other
> researchers of 27,000 to 51,000 deaths from small arms
> that year.
>
> INACCURATE ESTIMATES
>
> The undercounting is due mainly to a paucity of hard
> data and an over-reliance by analysts on estimates
> based on government and media accounts of wars, "which
> are often inaccurate," according to the 2005 survey.
>
> The number of indirect deaths around the world that can
> be blamed on small arms has also been underestimated,
> as these types of weapons typically trigger significant
> social disruption that leads to malnutrition,
> starvation, and death from preventable disease,
> according to the survey.
>
> Depending on the nature of the conflict, small arms
> cause between 60 percent and 90 percent of all direct
> war deaths, the study said.
>
> Following a formula developed at the United Nations,
> the small arms survey covers a broad range of hand-held
> arms, ranging from pistols and rifles to military-style
> machine guns, small mortars and portable anti-tank
> systems.
>
> The survey's release coincided with the opening of a
> weeklong U.N. conference intended to assess progress on
> a U.N. action plan for cracking down on the illicit
> global trade in small arms, adopted in 2001.
>
> While worldwide public attention is riveted on the
> devastating potential of biological, chemical and
> nuclear weapons, small arms typically carried by a
> single individual "are the real weapons of mass
> destruction," said Ambassador Pasi Patokallio of
> Finland, the conference's chairman.
>
> Heavy concentrations of small arms in a region are
> often enough to fuel a conflict, the small arms survey
> said.
>
> In the tense Middle East, for example, private gun
> ownership is widespread and on the rise, and
> "representatives of several governments have expressed
> concern that gun violence is becoming a major threat to
> public safety and a source of regional instability,"
> the survey reported.
>
> It estimated that 45 million to 90 million small arms
> were in the hands of civilians across that region.
>
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