howz 'bout 'phalloid'... they are upright, stiff,
reaching, rutty,
hairy, 'waxy', and made for, as I suggested, and
(methinks) Alan's
treatments of the images suggest purposes outside of
standing there in
the museum... they may be phalloidal in that they
may not be a plaster
cast of the member, but a bronze cast of the fetish.
solid shadows.
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:11:49 -0700
"[]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That little back stage bronzed and tutu'd rat
phallic?
>Jeez, where's a cigar when you need it?
>
>[]
>
>--- Talan Memmott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Funny how your critique of the Degas dancer
>> sculptures is similar what
>> they were panned for originally -- as being ugly,
>> and their content
>> mundane. Plus, phallic... That is not to say you
are
>> being
>> conservative in your critique since they are so
>> entrenched in
>> mass-aesthetics, as you say safe icons...
>>
>> I've always seen these as perverse mannequins --
to
>> be dressed and
>> undressed. And, considering that only one was
cast
>> in bronze during
>> Degas' lifetime, this seems to play as true.... a
>> bunch of wax
>> fetishes filling degas studio....
>>
>> maybe they are safe, because the backstory is
>> missing... I remember
>> seeing people greeting one of these sculptures at
>> SFMOMA with a "ain't
>> that cute" sort of "ahhhhhhh." which always
kinda
>> made me laugh....
>>
>> As to macro photos of art in museums... got
kicked
>> out of the National
>> Gallery in London for doing this.... of course,
they
>> didn't tell me
>> 'never come back' so I did... in like 10 minutes.
Of
>> course, zero
>> photography is allowed there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >believe it or not, this is exactly what I was
>> thinking when I was
>> >working
>> >on the series. The Degas dancers are bronze,
>> sometimes with wire
>> >netting
>> >for the tutu, but always phallic, as if the legs
>> were falling apart,
>> >tumored. I have no idea why they're as popular
as
>> they are, but then
>> >Degas
>> >leaves me cold personally. In any case, they
seem
>> 'safe' icons in an
>> >odd
>> >way, and I wanted to present otherwise. It was
>> difficult shooting at
>> >the
>> >Norton Simon - you're allowed to without flash,
but
>> not exactly that
>> >close. -- Alan
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Lanny Quarles wrote:
>> >
>> >> this is interesting alan. my sense is that the
>> rough frayed
>> >>topology, and
>> >> really its gridding,
>> >> of the head covering is a kind of analogy for
>> mappings; libidinal,
>> >>aesthetic,
>> >> sensory, personal, linguistic, etc.
>> >> also in the sense of a weaving, mappings as
>> weavings or vast
>> >>constructionist
>> >> integrals in a calculus
>> >> of embodiment, and the sense that the rough
>> edges, the "severed' or
>> >> 'cross-sectional' (sampled?) topology,
>> >> as it were, is a reflection of coding
practices,
>> or the praxis of
>> >> instantiation by/within the individual agent,
>> >> an imperfect "imaging" of larger vectors,
dogmas,
>> genetics, beliefs,
>> >>etc. am
>> >> I even close?
>> >> And even the idea of the physicality of
topology
>> as a kind of
>> >>'filter'
>> >> (re:perception) is reflected
>> >> in the synthetic pixel filtering beneathe the
>> shroud-topology. as if
>> >>the
>> >> coding of the filter produces
>> >> not only inner instantiations but external
ones
>> as well, which of
>> >>course is
>> >> the abolition of the
>> >> subject/object dichotomy in any deconstruction
>> which in this case
>> >>seems to
>> >> point to "constructionism"
>> >> as it universal agent.. perhaps the frayed
edges
>> define the
>> >>deconstructive
>> >> agency, as if this particular
>> >> individual or object has been wrenched from
the
>> grid, and these
>> >>loose fibers
>> >> represent a kind of
>> >> annoyance to the smoothness of the artifice of
>> "culture" or
>> >>"perception" as
>> >> an institution of the socium.
>> >>
>> >> lq.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Alan Sondheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:13 AM
>> >> Subject: Degas' Dancer, deconstruction, the
west
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> deconstruction of
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>> >>> deconstruction of Painting
>> >>> deconstruction of Impressionism
>> >>> deconstruction of The West
>> >>> deconstruction of Culture
>> >>> deconstruction of Perception
>> >>> deconstruction of The Real
>> >>>
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