On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, phanero wrote:

shall we consider the entire earth as a reliquary
or as a phanospheric incubator of 'desiring images'

no

the magic of the object is its participation in our consciousness
shall we say then that objects, representations are not alive
when they in fact participate in life in the meander of history
every bit as much or more than do the living which create
and perpetuate them..

yes they are not alive

it's not so much a question of an idolatry of the object
but of a deterritorialization of the cateogries (sic) of being

no, at least for me it's idolatry and the subject of wars, violence,
slaughter.


There was an anthropologist, Something White, I believe who
placed Culture into the category of living things, that culture
has an independent existence not determined by those whose
bodies propagated it.. things like the Kandy tooth, like certain
idea forms which go back to Rome and beyond attest to..
The idea of Memes addresses this directly attributing to them
a kind of viral existence which is in fact supported by the strange
lives of viruses themselves which are in fact not whole as organisms
but are completed by the organism to form a third emergence..

no, viruses are in fact whole; they require organisms to replicate but
then we require other foods. it's not a third emergence, I think, any more
than eating and gaining weight is an emergence.

I'm just wary of theory ...


Alan

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