RE: [WS_FTP Forum] WS_FTP V5 Behaivor Change Virtual Folders -Bug? [T2004061102R8]

[Lorne Ludwig]

Hi back...   While the work around would allow the user to assess the Folder, this is a poor option. The behavior change would mean that the user would now be able to "List" all the contents of the Folder and this is not what I need or wanted... I need the user to have access to the folder for delivering files to me but not to be able to see what is in the folder. This folder is used by 600 different users to deliver files to me and I did not want them to have visibility of the the other files. This change has been enough of a problem to make me need to go back and start re-evaluating other products to replace the 8 WS_FTP Servers I currently have unless this can be fixed.   The other option of not including the folder in the "user home folder" and having them manually move to the correct folder is also not workable. These 600 users are using scripts to perform these transfers and all of these scripts would need to be re-written to gain access to the correct folders. Additionally for the user to be able to CWD to the correct folder/directory I would need to make more of my folder/directory structure public than I want to or should be made to do. This is one of the main reasons for using Virtual Folders and now it has been invalidated.   As to this being an intentional change and not a "Bug"... I find that laughable. This change was not documented in the release notes and the user manual still states clearly that "List. The user can display a listing of the folder contents." on page 48 and 49. There is no mention that these rights a related to the Folder itself, all mention of rights are related to the contents only. Also on page 50 "To have virtual folders appear in user’s home folders, select the Include in user home folder listing option. When this option is selected, Do not include in top-level directory listing will also be enabled." Under this new "Feature" these are no longer true.   This is a major change and has created a big problem for me and has invalidated all of the documentation provided for Release 5. How many other "undocumented changes" have been made to this release?  Rather than trying to "cover your six" and pretend this was an intentional "feature" just FIX THE BUG! This new "feature" actually reduces security options available to the Administrator and provides nothing useful. If the Administrator has selected the Include in user home folder listing option then that is a pretty clear indication that the folder should show in the home folder view no mater what "contents" rights have been conferred upon the user. Lorne -In Beer there is Strength... -In Wine there is Wisdom... -In Water there is BACTERIA!!!     Old German Proverb From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WS_FTP Forum] WS_FTP V5 Behaivor Change Virtual Folders -Bug? [T2004061102R8] Hi,               Thank you for the information.  This has been logged as an issue to be addressed by the R&D department.  It was actually changed due to requests that we had in previous versions.  Since the release of version 5.0, we have had many users speak out against this change.  I would like to be sure that you understand that “as a workaround” your users can manually change to the directory and they will still have Write and Delete permission.  To allow the users to see the folder from their home directory, you will have to add LIST permissions.   Thank you, Julie J. Ipswitch Technical Support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WS_FTP Forum] WS_FTP V5 Behaivor Change Virtual Folders -Bug? [T2004061102R8Z2963504]   Hi,   I have noticed a major behavior change in the way WS_FTP Server V5 deals with Virtual Folders that are flagged to "Include in user home folder listing". In the past a folder could be set to show in the home folder, Allow Writes, and Allow Deletes but not allow the user to List Contents by removing the "List" right. In the new version the folder will not show in the home folder listing even when the "Include in user home folder listing" option is selected unless the user has "List" rights. This "Bug" is causing some major problems for me as I had several folders on several servers that I did not want users to be able to "List" but they must be able to "Write" files into this folder.  Lorne -In Beer there is Strength... -In Wine there is Wisdom... -In Water there is BACTERIA!!!     Old German Proverb