David's easily understood example is a sample of what's sorely missing from Ipswitch 
documentation. The manuals should easily be twice their size if they contained the 
proper number of examples of how to utilize the options described in the text. I have 
always used trial and error and then stuffed my results into the manuals in place of 
the missing examples.

Mike Schatzberg
The Clearing House
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
From: David Knapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WS_FTP Forum] host.domain.top


Here is an example of our setup that may help explain the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
issue:

My earlier list:
Domain:                 IP address:
-------------------------------------
Mydomain.com            55.44.44.567
Otherdomain.com         $virtual
sub.mydomain.com                $virtual


Domain 1:
        Host:   mydomain.com  (55.44.44.567)
        Users:  harry(pwd: harr1)

        How they would setup their ftp client:
        Host:           mydomain.com
        Username:       harry
        Password:       harr1
        
Domain 2:
        Host:     otherdomain.com ($virtual)
        Users:  janet(pwd:jan1)

        How they would setup their ftp client:
        Host:           otherdomain.com
        Username:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Password:       jan1

Domain 3:
        Host:     sub.mydomain.com ($virtual)
        Users:  frank(pwd: fran1)
        
        How they would setup their ftp client:
        Host:           sub.mydomain.com
        Username:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Password:       fran1




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Plug99
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WS_FTP Forum] host.domain.top

Lorne
No, this is *not* already known. Very helpful indeed. At
last its getting my head round the whole thing.

I am not clear on the 'then the users would just
FTP to domain1.TLD (name would resolve to IP) and then sign
on using the
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to ensure they are directed to the
proper FTP Server Virtual Host.' part.
This seems to me to indicate *two* stages of the client
logging in.
The first stage is all the info that he can put in the
ftp-client 'log in form', typically ; ------
HostName/Addres  URL or IP
User ID
Password
Account
Path to Initial Remote Site Folder
Comment (on some clients)
-------
I can't see where the user then gets the opportunity to
'sign on using the [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
I'm using WS_FTP vers 3.14 - Do later versions have
provision for this 'second stage' sign on ??
(I know in my bones that this is a foolish question and that
I've misunderstood what you've said )

Many Thanks
Dave




----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorne Ludwig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:34 AM
Subject: RE: [WS_FTP Forum] host.domain.top


> Dave,
>
> I'm guessing that you have setup WS_FTP with several
virtual hosts. So your
> "user" sign on for each FTP Server would be
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to get
> the user to the correct virtual FTP Host. A sign on that
was just "username"
> would only access the Main (First) FTP Server. The FTP
Server Virtual Hosts
> can be "host.domain.top" style but they could also just be
a name (if you
> have 4 Domains all on the same server you might name them
domain1.TLD
> domain2.TLD domain3.TLD and domain4.TLD so that the
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> is meaningful to you and your users)
>
> If these were also hosted on the same web server and the
existing "A"
> records for domain1.TLD domain2.TLD domain3.TLD and
domain4.TLD point to the
> same IP address that you will be doing FTP to/from then
the users would just
> FTP to domain1.TLD (name would resolve to IP) and then
sign on using the
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to ensure they are directed to the
proper FTP Server
> Virtual Host.
>
> I don't know if I'm helping or just covering ground you
already know?
>
> Lorne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Plug99
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WS_FTP Forum] host.domain.top
>
>
> Thanks Lorne
>
> My 4 different URL's are lodged with an ISP (at no
charge-great people) with
> the 'A' records in their DNS all pointing to my one static
IP address. (my
> web server has its own vhosts (virtual hosts) file which
sends traffic to
> the correct site according to which URL was used) Although
I can access an
> interface to the DNS records via their web form, there is
no provision for
> me to put a 'host' prefix in front of my full registered
URL i.e bloggs.com.
> Is it essential that the 'host' prefix goes in the 'A'
> record?
> If so then I'll ask my ISP
> Assuming I can put 'dave' in front i.e. dave.bloggs.com
won't this mean that
> all users must access bloggs.com via dave.bloggs.com.
> Would user 'fred' have to access fred.dave.bloggs.com and
Anonymous as
> Anonymous.dave.bloggs.com ??
> Sorry about this - you can see how confused I am.
> Many thanks
>
> Dave Plub
>
> > Well,
> >
> > In your case "host.domain.top" could be
"dave.bloggs.com"
> or
> > "ftpserver.bloggs.com" or whatever you want the "Host"
> part to be. In order
> > for your users to find the server there would need to be
> an "A" Record on
> > the Authoritative DNS Servers for your domain pointing
> from the
> > "host.domain.top" to the correct IP Address.
> >
> > Is this helpful at all? Do you need more info or detail?
> >
> > Lorne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Plug99
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 1:41 PM
> > To: WSFTP_Forum
> > Subject: [WS_FTP Forum] host.domain.top
> >
> > Could someone clarify the definition of
'host.domain.top'
> > please.
> >
> > I am new to NT/win2000 but am happily running a
4-virtual
> host web server on
> > it at present (with 4 URL's directed to my one static IP
> address).
> >
> > Am having great difficulty with all aspects of getting
> WS_FTP working
> > smoothly, even with one single 'host' and just using my
IP
> address -
> > somtimes it works but right now it's stopped - due to my
> own cock-up I
> > guess. I am experimenting by going round in circles, and
> we all know where
> > that method ends up!
> >
> > Right now I'm on the 'host.domain.top'  bit.
> >
> > To set up a new host I am instructed to "complete
desired
> hostname for this
> > host, which must be in the form 'host.domain.top' "
> > Assuming that my URL is 'bloggs.com' and my machine is
> named 'dave' and my
> > IP is 123.456.789.001, what should my 'host.domain.top'
> look like please?
> >
> > What would be usefull to us newbies is a few examples of
> server setups plus
> > a few of client setups.
> > This might sound childish but it would save a lot of
> permutated
> > experimenting with combinations of paths, permissions,
> virtual hosts,
> > aliases  etc. etc  (and guessing what 'top' means).
> >
> > All this should be simple stuff but Ipswitch have made
> sure that it isn't.
> > The kindest thing I can say about their pdf Manual is it
> seems to be written
> > by experts for experts - but I'm not so sure that that's
> true.
> > The carrot that is keeping me going is that it promises
to
> be such a great
> > prog - If I can ever get it working smoothly.
> >
> > A liitle help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Dave Plug
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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