My new firewall is a Check Point [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My old firewall was a 
Watchguard SOHO.  I'm 100% certain it is a firewall issue, as my test FTP 
server works just fine from behind my old firewall, where the passive 
connections seems to fail through the new firewall.  

One thing I noticed - the passive connections that are failing, seem to making 
the connections okay, but the connection seems to hang when the "LIST" command 
is being executed.  I don't know much about FTP commands, but I'm guessing LIST 
is what tells the server to give a list of what's in the directory.  I don't 
know if this means anything, but hopefully someone might find this info useful 
or have another idea for me to try.

Thanks,

Scott Smith
Network Administrator

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Westside & Detroit Reprographics
An ARC Company

248.489.1999 office
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Randy Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date:  Sat, 14 May 2005 06:58:23 -0400

We have run into this problem with Passive mode FTP in the past, but we
are in the process in moving to a Cisco PIX firewall.  In a previous
post, I had identified ports 2000 and up, it should have been 1024 and
up.

The following Cisco document seems to support this.  This document
supports opening ports from 1024 to 65535 by creating an access  list.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v50/relnotes/pixrn503.htm

As for the fixup command on the Cisco PIX, I don't think that is the
solution.  The following documentation can be summarized as follows:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps2120/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008017278b.html


The fixup command addresses issues with NAT and PAT Address
Translations.  To greatly simplify things, an packet generated from a
server in the Private network space is translated at the NAT server to
the external Public Address so that the remote end can get back to the
NATed server.  The problem is, it is only the IP Header that is modified
by NAT.  NAT does not modify the Private IP Addresses in the payload
from a higher layer in the OSI model.  The fixup command ensures that
all Private addresses get translated in the packet.

Also note that the strict parameter to the fixup command often breaks
FTP clients that are not RFC compliant.

Some firewalls do not have a functional equivalent of the fixup
command, that this will break things such as Oracle Client, as Oracle
also embeds the IP Address of the system iin the payload.

Hope this helps.
Randy

Randy Baker, Systems Administrator, Information Technology
Georgian College of Applied Arts & Technology
1 Georgian Drive, Barrie, ON, L4M 3X9
(705) 728-1968 Extension 1183

"The difference between Genius and Stupidity,
is that Genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/13 6:15 pm >>>
If the server is set for passive connections, the server responds to
the
client (in this case IE) connection with a port to connect back for
the
data connection.  Your new firewall probably has these high ports
blocked by default.  You need to determine what range of ports is
defined on the WS-FTP Server for this purpose and open them on the
firewall.  I don't remember what the default range is, but it can be
changed to whatever you are comfortable with.

Keith

Keith A. Pass
AVP, Network Security,
Database Supervisor
AMCORE Financial, Inc.
501 7th St
Rockford, Il 61110
Telephone: 815.961.3809
Fax: 877.430.3019
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/13/05 4:58 PM >>>
I would definitely look at the firewall. If it's a PIX you can
probably
issue the "[no]fixup protocol ftp" command. I have seen similar things
with a Netscreen firewall, where I allowed in all the built-in
protocols: FTP, FTP-PUT, FTP-GET... And it did not work. Once I
allowed
only the default FTP it worked fine.
I'm guessing it was working fine until you installed a new firewall.
Hope that helps.


Dan
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:58 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [WS_FTP Forum] Passive FTP and firewall and Internet
explorer

We're using WS_FTP Server 5.0.  I'm not talking about WS_FTP Pro at
all,
to 
the best of my knowledge the customers in question are all using
Internet 
Explorer 6 to access the FTP site.

Scott Smith
Network Administrator
248.489.1999
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Westside & Detroit Reprographics
An ARC Company
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grimard, Ronald L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: [WS_FTP Forum] Passive FTP and firewall and Internet
explorer


Scott....what version of ws-ftp pro are you using?...and  what version
of
ws-ftp-server are you
running?

By default  passive mode is turned on in ws-ftp pro,

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:14 PM
To: WSFTP Forum
Subject: [WS_FTP Forum] Passive FTP and firewall and Internet explorer

I've been having an issue with many customers who can't access our FTP
site.

I believe every one of them is using IE to browse to the FTP site.  I
tried
connecting myself from outside our network, and I couldn't even get
in.
That is, until i disabled the passive ftp option in the Internet
Options
in
Windows.  As soon as that passive ftp option was disabled, I was able
to
get
right into the FTP site.  I believe that my customers are probably
having
the same problem.  The only thing that changed recently was we have a
new
firewall in place.

I'm already asking the firewall manufacturer if there are any issues
with
passive ftp, but I want to ask the forum if any of you have any input
on
this?

Thanks,

Scott Smith
Network Administrator
248.489.1999
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Westside & Detroit Reprographics
An ARC Company
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