3.6.16 On 1 April 2011 18:54, <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org> wrote:
> ********************************************************************* > WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST > ********************************************************************* > > > From: tee <weblis...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:41:16 -0700 > Subject: what is the exact version of FF 3.6 x prior to FF4? > > I upgraded to FF4 without checking the compatibility of the addons. > > Both YSlow and Page Speed aren't compatible, now I need to install the > previous version that I used, but can't remember the exact version. > There seems to be a number of 3.6.x. > > This is for Mac. Thanks! > > BTW, FF mobile is out. > > tee > > > ********************************************************************* > From: "Chris F.A. Johnson" <ch...@cfajohnson.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 03:49:23 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [WSG] what is the exact version of FF 3.6 x prior to FF4? > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, tee wrote: > > > I upgraded to FF4 without checking the compatibility of the addons. > > > > > Both YSlow and Page Speed aren't compatible, now I need to install > > the previous version that I used, but can't remember the exact > > version. There seems to be a number of 3.6.x. > > The latest I have is 3.6.13 > > > This is for Mac. Thanks! > > After upgrading to FF4, most addons worked -- until I restarted FF. > > However, after re-installing the addons, most of them worked fine. > > > -- > Chris F.A. Johnson, <http://cfajohnson.com/> > Author: > Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress) > Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) > > ********************************************************************* > From: =?UTF-8?Q?Kristaps_Anc=C4=81ns?= <kristaps.anc...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:58:10 +0200 > Subject: Re: [WSG] what is the exact version of FF 3.6 x prior to FF4? > > 3.6.15 > > Ar cieņu, > Kristaps AncÄ ns > > Mob.: +371 29831831 > E-pasts: kristaps.anc...@gmail.com > Skype: kristaps.ancans > Web: www.fyfi.net, www.metalguide.org > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 09:49, Chris F.A. Johnson <ch...@cfajohnson.com > >wro > te: > > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, tee wrote: > > > > I upgraded to FF4 without checking the compatibility of the addons. > >> > >> > > Both YSlow and Page Speed aren't compatible, now I need to install > >> the previous version that I used, but can't remember the exact > >> version. There seems to be a number of 3.6.x. > >> > > > > The latest I have is 3.6.13 > > > > This is for Mac. Thanks! > >> > > > > After upgrading to FF4, most addons worked -- until I restarted FF. > > > > However, after re-installing the addons, most of them worked fine. > > > > > > -- > > Chris F.A. Johnson, <http://cfajohnson.com/> > > Author: > > Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress) > > Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > From: Fabien BENARIAC <fabien.benar...@wanadoo.fr> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:05:14 +0200 > Subject: Re: [WSG] what is the exact version of FF 3.6 x prior to FF4? > > Le 31/03/11 09:49, Chris F.A. Johnson a écrit : > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, tee wrote: > > > >> I upgraded to FF4 without checking the compatibility of the addons. > >> > > > >> Both YSlow and Page Speed aren't compatible, now I need to install > >> the previous version that I used, but can't remember the exact > >> version. There seems to be a number of 3.6.x. > > > > The latest I have is 3.6.13 > > > >> This is for Mac. Thanks! > > > > After upgrading to FF4, most addons worked -- until I restarted FF. > I just have to re-install firebug... YSlow was ok after for me. btw, I > think a upgrade is usefull (I don't understand why you want to run FF3x > modules with FF4x...) > > > > > However, after re-installing the addons, most of them worked fine. > > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > From: "Chris F.A. Johnson" <ch...@cfajohnson.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:12:09 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [WSG] what is the exact version of FF 3.6 x prior to FF4? > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Fabien BENARIAC wrote: > ... > > (I don't understand why you want to run FF3x modules > > with FF4x...) > > If it ain't broke... > > -- > Chris F.A. Johnson, <http://cfajohnson.com/> > Author: > Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress) > Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) > > ********************************************************************* > From: tee <weblis...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:44:59 -0700 > Subject: Re: [WSG] what is the exact version of FF 3.6 x prior to FF4? > > Thanks all! > > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:05 AM, Fabien BENARIAC wrote: > >> > >> After upgrading to FF4, most addons worked -- until I restarted > FF. > > I just have to re-install firebug... YSlow was ok after for me. btw, I > think a upgrade is usefull (I don't understand why you want to run FF3x > modules with FF4x...) > > > Sometimes I hate it when I asked a simple question and having to end up > explaining the background story in details:) > > I don't want to run FF3x addons with FF4x. I want to run a separate FF3x > with addons that don't work for FF4 yet. > > Some addons are not compatible with FF4x, which I have learned, because > FF4 uses 64bits whereas FF3x is 32bits. > > I upgraded FF4 the day it released, at that time, Firebug FF4 > compatible showed an error (and the YSlow didn't work so I disabled > both), WAVE Toolbar was not available until a couple days later (kudos > to WebAIM people working fast, or I would had to ask the question few > days earlier). Google Page Speed is still not compatible, from its page, > there is a "A week to a few weeks. In the meantime" comment dated on Mar > 22. Today is Mar 31. > > It looks to me the developers at Google didn't even bother to test the > extension with FF4 beta, and thought it could just work. just fine. > When it didn't and people reported it, they ignored for months. > > http://code.google.com/p/page-speed/issues/detail?id=453 > > YSlow, just checked again. Seems to have bug that caught me off guard, > the Run Test button is not clickable. > > I nee the Page Speed because my client use it for site test. It has > released the extension under Experimental Extension API I learned > yesterday when I was desperate to make the Page Speed works. After > trying it, I find I rather stay with the FF's version thus my question > for previous FF. > > > tee > > ********************************************************************* > From: tee <weblis...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:15:36 -0700 > Subject: possible to make DT and DD behave like TH and TD column visually? > > http://jsbin.com/emiye5/4/ > > The DD and DT are floated, when a DD has more content, the next set > can't stayed align horizontally. > > P/s. I only use DL because LI doesn't make sense here and I can't get > the visual result I wanted. > > #data-attribute {width:700px;background:#f9f9f9;overflow:hidden;} > #data-attribute dt{font-weight:bold;width:15%;} > #data-attribute dd{width:85%;clear:right} > #data-attribute dt, #data-attribute dd {float:left;padding:5px > 0;margin:0; > border-bottom:1px solid #ddd;} > > > BTW, can one confirms if clear:right ever work or it only works with > certain combination? I have clear:right in the dd and it's not helping. > Actually I never able to get clear right work. > Thanks! > > tee > > ********************************************************************* > From: Russ Weakley <r...@maxdesign.com.au> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:56:23 +1100 > Subject: Re: [WSG] possible to make DT and DD behave like TH and TD column > visually? > > 1. I think you invented a new property "overholow:hidden". Supposed to > be "overflow: hidden;" ? > > 2. If you place the borders on top of the elements, you have no lining > up issues: > > #data-attribute dt, #data-attribute dd > { > float: left; > padding: 5px 0; > margin: 0; > border-top: 1px solid #ddd; > } > > 3. Both items are floated left. Setting a clear: right will not help or > have any affect here. Clear: right will clear any right floated item > above. > > Thanks > Russ > > -------------------------------------------------- > Russ Weakley > Max Design > Phone: (02) 9410 2521 > Mobile: 0403 433 980 > Email: r...@maxdesign.com.au > Skype: russ-maxdesign > MSN: r...@maxdesign.com.au > Website: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/ > Twitter: http://twitter.com/russmaxdesign > Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/russweakley > Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/maxdesign/ > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > On 31/03/2011, at 10:15 PM, tee wrote: > > > http://jsbin.com/emiye5/4/ > > > > The DD and DT are floated, when a DD has more content, the next set > can't stayed align horizontally. > > > > P/s. I only use DL because LI doesn't make sense here and I can't get > the visual result I wanted. > > > > #data-attribute {width:700px;background:#f9f9f9;overflow:hidden;} > > #data-attribute dt{font-weight:bold;width:15%;} > > #data-attribute dd{width:85%;clear:right} > > #data-attribute dt, #data-attribute dd {float:left;padding:5px > 0;margin:0; > > border-bottom:1px solid #ddd;} > > > > > > BTW, can one confirms if clear:right ever work or it only works with > certain combination? I have clear:right in the dd and it's not helping. > Actually I never able to get clear right work. > > Thanks! > > > > tee > > > > ******************************************************************* > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > ********************************************************************* > From: Jayachandran Kandasamy <jayachandran.kandas...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:43:56 +0530 > Subject: Re: [WSG] possible to make DT and DD behave like TH and TD column > visually? > > Hi Tee, > > In your case, clear: right wont help, since you have independent element > like DT, DD, dont apply the border- bottom for all, just give border-bottom > for the DL just having the markup like > > <dl> > <dt class="label">Summary</dt> > <dd class="data">The finest of Japanese teas, Gyokuro bushes are covered > for > several weeks before harvest with bamboo or straw shades to increase the > chlorophyll content of the leaves. The results of this transformation are > the renowned dark green leaves with high concentrations of Antioxidants, > vitamins and amino acids. Celebrated for its emerald green infusion and > sweet aftertaste.</dd> > </dl> > <dl> > <dt class="label">Weight</dt> > <dd class="data">100.0000</dd> > </dl> > <dl> > <dt class="label">Ingredients</dt> > <dd class="data">N/A</dd> > </dl> > > If you write the markup in this fashion, you wont get any alignment > problem, > and page looks neat as well :) > > Thanks, > JC > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:45 PM, tee <weblis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > http://jsbin.com/emiye5/4/ > > > > The DD and DT are floated, when a DD has more content, the next set can't > > stayed align horizontally. > > > > P/s. I only use DL because LI doesn't make sense here and I can't get the > > visual result I wanted. > > > > #data-attribute {width:700px;background:#f9f9f9;overflow:hidden;} > > #data-attribute dt{font-weight:bold;width:15%;} > > #data-attribute dd{width:85%;clear:right} > > #data-attribute dt, #data-attribute dd {float:left;padding:5px > 0;margin:0; > > border-bottom:1px solid #ddd;} > > > > > > BTW, can one confirms if clear:right ever work or it only works with > > certain combination? I have clear:right in the dd and it's not helping. > > Actually I never able to get clear right work. > > Thanks! > > > > tee > > > > ******************************************************************* > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > From: David Hucklesby <huckle...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:13:40 -0700 > Subject: Re: [WSG] what is the exact version of FF 3.6 x prior to FF4? > > On 3/31/11 1:44 AM, tee wrote: > > Thanks all! > > > > > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:05 AM, Fabien BENARIAC wrote: > >>> > >>> After upgrading to FF4, most addons worked -- until I restarted > >>> FF. > >> I just have to re-install firebug... YSlow was ok after for me. > >> btw, I think a upgrade is usefull (I don't understand why you want > >> to run FF3x modules with FF4x...) > >> > > Sometimes I hate it when I asked a simple question and having to end > > up explaining the background story in details:) > > > > I don't want to run FF3x addons with FF4x. I want to run a separate > > FF3x with addons that don't work for FF4 yet. > > > > Try http://davemartorana.com/multifirefox/ > -- > Cordially, > David > > ********************************************************************* > From: tee <weblis...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:09:45 -0700 > Subject: what could be the cause that Safari can't load a page? > > I know that in the pre v2, Safari had this problem with sites that use > JS. But I rarely see any for a very long time. > > These days I have seen quite a numbers, the problem are not always the > same but it's always the Safari, these days the page simply couldn't > load, then freeze, and I am forced to quit the browser. From Firefox > developer tool, I can't find suspicious error though. > > Could it be possible that Safari has security flaw that is exploited by > very cleaver hacker? Something like Google services got hacker and the > hackers made it like it was Google server problem? > > My Safari version is 5.0.4 (6533.20.27) > > http://bit.ly/eKE1He (safe to click - I made the shorten url myself, > but if you rather not clicking it, that's ok. The link goes to a > blogger's site). > > Thanks! > > tee > > ********************************************************************* > From: Hassan Schroeder <has...@webtuitive.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:13:39 -0700 > Subject: Re: [WSG] what could be the cause that Safari can't load a page? > > On 3/31/11 3:09 PM, tee wrote: > > > These days I have seen quite a numbers, the problem are not always > > the same but it's always the Safari, these days the page simply > > couldn't load, then freeze, and I am forced to quit the browser. > > > My Safari version is 5.0.4 (6533.20.27) > > Loaded OK for me, same version of Safari, OS X(10.6.6) on a 3yr-old > MBP with 4GB memory. > > > http://bit.ly/eKE1He > > A little slow, it's a huge page, but no freeze. Oh, and I got one > popup telling me my Flip4Mac version is out of date, so it may be > something to do with an embedded video element? > > HTH, > -- > Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- has...@webtuitive.com > webtuitive design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com > http://about.me/hassanschroeder > twitter: @hassan > dream. code. > > ********************************************************************* > From: David Laakso <da...@chelseacreekstudio.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:12:19 -0400 > Subject: Re: [WSG] what could be the cause that Safari can't load a page? > > On 3/31/11 6:09 PM, tee wrote: > > http://bit.ly/eKE1He (safe to click - I made the shorten url myself, > but if you rather not clicking it, that's ok. The link goes to a blogger's > site). > > > > > > > > tee > > > > > > > > The load is continuous. > OS X 10.4 > Safari/4.1.3 > Had to force quit on video error. > Check markup: > <http://html5.validator.nu/> > > ~d > > > > > > > -- > http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ > http://chelseacreekstudio.com/fa/ > > > > ********************************************************************* > From: tee <weblis...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:25:51 -0700 > Subject: Re: [WSG] possible to make DT and DD behave like TH and TD column > visually? > > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 4:56 AM, Russ Weakley wrote: > > > 1. I think you invented a new property "overholow:hidden". Supposed to > be "overflow: hidden;" ? > > Typo. > > > > 2. If you place the borders on top of the elements, you have no lining > up issues: > > I believe I didn't asked the question correctly. Too tired! The problem > isn't seemed to be causing by the border line. In that quick test page > it shows correctly though I forgot. > > Please see this page.http://bit.ly/ijuKS4. click on Product data, the > CSS codes are identical to http://jsbin.com/emiye5/6/. > You can see that Ingredients (DT) drops under previous set of DD when > the content is too short. > > In most cases, I don't declare width for DL when it's wrapped inside a > container (#tab {width:100%}) which already has a width, but in this > case, I added a 700px for DL. I thought maybe a DD or DT somewhere else > causing it, so I added important rule making sure no extra > paddings/margins got in the way. > > My hunch is somehow browsers couldn't get the correct calculations due > to relative position somewhere?! > > @JC, thanks for the suggestion for wrapping dl on each set. Really tried > not to do that to create extra codes as there are too many areas that I > couldn't keep them lean. > > tee > > > ********************************************************************* > From: tee <weblis...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:52:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: [WSG] what could be the cause that Safari can't load a page? > > > > > > The load is continuous. > > OS X 10.4 > > Safari/4.1.3 > > Had to force quit on video error. > > Check markup: > > <http://html5.validator.nu/> > > > > ~d > > Thanks. > > The first video link on the right column? > > tee > > > > ********************************************************************* > From: David Laakso <da...@chelseacreekstudio.com> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:10:03 -0400 > Subject: Re: [WSG] what could be the cause that Safari can't load a page? > > On 3/31/11 10:52 PM, tee wrote: > > > >> > >> The load is continuous. > >> OS X 10.4 > >> Safari/4.1.3 > >> Had to force quit on video error. > >> Check markup: > >> <http://html5.validator.nu/> > >> > >> ~d > > > > Thanks. > > > > The first video link on the right column? > > > > tee > > > > > > Yes, I thi/m/k so. > As ever, > ~quasimodo > > > -- > http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ > http://chelseacreekstudio.com/fa/ > > > ************************************************************** > Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > ************************************************************** > > > ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *******************************************************************
