OK, I am convinced.... It's time to gracefully not please the older browsers with eye candy...
So I started converting the table layout into divs. Guess what! It looks like a mess, I must not fully understand the concept yet. http://development.developer-exchange.com/test.cfm It starts out fine, then the #menuTop does not show the top and bottom border The #attentionContainer I really can't get any to look like before, I was able to get the 3 divs lined up next to each other, but there is no border showing for the #attentionContainer Then I tried #attentionContainer a { some stuff here } And it just wouldn't do anything for the "a" elements within the context of #attentionContainer Then the text runs through the menu. I haven't gone any further than this... Come on you got me started, now don't let me down ;-)) cheers Taco Fleur Tell me and I will forget Show me and I will remember Teach me and I will learn > -----Original Message----- > From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, 7 December 2003 7:53 AM > To: Web Standards Group > Subject: Re: [WSG] Too Much Space.. > > > > I had a look at the themaninblue.com and wow, that is > seriously some > > brilliant work, but I was not able to make any sense out of the > > lay-out, I wish I could.. And what would be the minimum > browser that > > would work in? I mean that is just perfect for the audience of his > > website, but what about an audience that has browsers ranging from > > ie3, ns3 and up? > > > > Hi Taco, > > themaninblue.com is a brilliant site (welcome to the list, > Cameron), and has a great write-up on Simon's (American) > blog: http://jessey.net/blog/2003/dec/#e01a > > Regarding older browsers like ie3, nn3... > > The old theory was that you coded the hell out of every page > until it was locked and exact in every browser on earth. The > downside is that this method does not take into account other > user agents such as screen readers, text browsers, hand > helds, printers and possible the most important, search bots. > > The more recent theory is that you code for standards > compliant browsers and then allow the layout to fail > gracefully in older and older browsers. The code is lean, so > in the oldest browsers (like IE3 and NN3) this will appear is > simple content - with no style. This works well, as long as > you start with good, clean semantically correct markup. > > Who wins? You can provide clean content to a wider variety of > user agents. You can also specifically target printers. But > most importantly (from a commercial sense), Google loves it. > Like free beer in a pub! > > : ) > Russ > > ***************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > ***************************************************** > ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *****************************************************
