This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below. Taco, The point is that we are working towards standards that the browsers can implement and not a standard engine. Take for example the hypothetical situation where mozilla dissappeared and the only browser you had to code for was IE. You would still be tearing your hair our because the behaviour of IE has changed quite dramatically between IE 5, 5.5 and 6, and that's ignoring IE for mac which is a whole different kettle of fish. Now if IE supported standards and things like transparent PNG's then we would all have a much easier job. Cheers, Mark Lynch Development Manager - Business Innovation Online Ernst & Young - Australia http://www.eyware.com/ http://www.eyonline.com/ Direct: +612 9248 4038 Fax: +612 9248 4073 Mobile: +61 421 050 695 "Taco Fleur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> com.au> cc: Subject: RE: [WSG] Browser Engine Standard??? [Virus checkedAU] 11/12/2003 11:03 AM Please respond to wsg ----------------- Unfortunately, while we do vaguely know what *most* of the users use right now, we don't know at any point, for any particular site, what those *specific* users are browsing with, and what they will be browsing with in the future. ----------------- Is it really still vague? If we keep thinking like this, will we ever get a standard? I realize years ago, it was crazy to say, "hey I will only code for Browser X", because there was such a variety used out there. But lately it has been quite obvious what the USERS are using (and once again let me stress out that that does not mean I agree with what they are using) the two browsers at the top are Internet Explorer and Mozilla, with Internet Explorer Leading. Cool, time to say bye bye to EVERY other browser that is not within this range, i.e. the ones that only have a share of 5% or less percent. Let the top two battle it out, i.e. let's see who the users will choose in the next two years, after that, bye bye number 2. One browser left, and we can all code for one browser (or engine/parser if they wised up and used the same backend but different front-end) and we can all finally start using those fancy features that we have stayed away from because they don't work in every browser. ;-)) Taco ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ ***************************************************** -------------------- NOTICE - This communication contains information which is confidential and the copyright of Ernst & Young or a third party. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies and telephone Ernst & Young on 1800 655 717 immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of Ernst & Young. Any views expressed in this Communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Ernst & Young. Except as required at law, Ernst & Young does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Liability limited by the Accountants Scheme, approved under the Professional Standards Act 1994 (NSW) -------------------- ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *****************************************************