We don't have to agree at all, but here's my point. A lot of users are *not* dumb. They realise that links aren't always underlined with blue text. They realise that buttons may not always look like what they're used to -- this is good for you.
------------------- Agreed, a lot of users are not dumb, so they also understand that its a button even when on mouseover the cursor turns into a hand|pointer, so it would be more wise (IMHO) to think about that % that is not so familiar with the web. In your own oppinion, do you think a new internet user or inexperienced user would understand that he can click the button when it turns into a hand|pointer or when the cursor does nothing when moving over the button? I have seen people style buttons so that they blend in with the whole desing, see http://www.zeldman.com scroll to the bottom, see that button, if the cursor changed on mouse-over it would have been much clearer that its a clickable object. To me anyway. ------------------- However, the majority (guess only) of webpages the user visits are styled with default buttons. Even if only 25% of sites are using default buttons, it's still a SIGNIFICANT NUMBER more sites that your ONE INTERFACE which is different. ------------------- Not sure what your saying here? ------------------- So they visit your site, with buttons that are styled differently -- no matter how insignificant the task appears, the user still has to *learn* your interface (and *remember* it) -- which is a task my websites will not (generally) ask them to do too much of. ------------------- Exactamento! A user always has to learn the interface, buttons can always be different, so what IF the cursor ALWAYS turned into a hand|pointer how much quicker will they understand your interface? ------------------- You seem to be proposing a 'developer recommendation' (to be taken up by some developers), whereas I'd much rather follow a 'w3 recommendation' (which all standards compliant browsers and developers will follow). ------------------- Not proposing anything, just want to hear the opinion of other people on this matter, see if there is a valid point that will make me think otherwise about my opinion ;-)) Just because I have an opinion doesn't mean its the right one - therefore I like to debate it... ------------------- Sorry for the long post! Justin French ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ ***************************************************** ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *****************************************************
