I've looked at Farcry and like lots of my colleagues, I've decided it's too
far-removed from coldfusion to use.  Unless you're a spectra-head, the whole
dictionary of terminology is different and very arcane, I find.  I looked at
it very closely (I've got a lot at stake and some practical background with
CMS)  and decided that if you want to do what the developers of FarCry have
designed in, it's a piece of cake.  IF you want to do anything different,
you better be willing to learn an entire new vocabulary.

I don't think it was ever designed with shared environments in mind, and
finding out how to set it up for shared environments has been a long and
wearying road for me.  I'm still not willing to attempt setting it up on my
server.  There is a lot of the app outside the site, and that is a worry in
a shared environment.

One of the main reasons for having a CMS is you want to allow non-technical
people to update the site safely.   I tried my test app on a dozen
non-technical people, and not one of them could find out how to add a page
without having to be shown where it was.

In short, FarCry is a brilliant CMS, except that I think the development is
a spectra-head's dream, and they haven't had enough input from non-technical
people.   It's like a lot of stuff coming from Daemon - they always make me
feel like I'm a lesser class of mortal because I don't fly in the higher
stratosphere where they live, and I don't know every nuance of every
Macromedia product. 

My advice:  Look at FarCry.  If you need the features they've built into it,
and if you have your own server, fantastic. It's going to be quick and easy
to get up and going and you can spend your time building content.  If you
want anything different to what's provided in the product as delivered, you
better know a lot about spectra or be prepared to dump all your CF
terminology and learn new terminology.  If neither of these ... keep on
looking, or write your own.  

I've written my own with less than half the features but it does exactly
what I need and it took a fraction of the time to get going as my trial
FarCy install did.


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2004 5:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

Hey Justin

That's a very big call - best of luck to you. But before you jump in can I
suggest you look at http://farcry.daemon.com.au. Ok its Coldfusion based &
not PHP, but CF will cost you a few thousand dollars & that is a tiny
amount to pay for a product (farcry) of this quality.

This is seriously a mature, powerful product & there is an extremely
active development community behind it. Please do yourself a favour & a
have a long hard look at this even if its just to review what a good CMS
should do.


Cheers

Mark


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Mark Stanton
Technical Director
Gruden Pty Ltd
Tel: 9956 6388
Mob: 0410 458 201
Fax: 9956 8433
http://www.gruden.com


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