Hi Tim,

Accessibility is the issue, right? I think authors need to take a stand, and let their 
visitors know
that they are at least making an effort to reach their audience, through whichever 
technology that
may have employed. To the average visitor, it is simple enough to ignore the link, 
just as it is
simple to ignore the Skip Navigation link. I placed it first since it will be the 
first thing a
screen reader bumps into. Persons using AT may appreciate this segue right off the 
bat, rather than
searching for it.

It would seem that a great many users access the web through the SERPs, rather than 
typing the
complete url. This introduced another consideration to the whole accessibility 
question, namely,
will the site come up in the first fifty results?

While I may be out in left field with this thought, I had the notion that Google and 
others actually
'look' for the accessibility statement, just as they look for the Privacy Policy and 
Site Map. With
this in mind, I felt the statement would actually improve accessibility, albeit in 
this roundabout
manner.

Even though a site has no commercial aim, it is still, nonetheless mounted with the 
purpose of
getting a message out, and providing timely information.

""Don't like the logo much though...""

Cannot take credit for the graphic. I got that in the mail, and had to reduce it to 
66% for a good
fit. You work with what you have, and hope to make the most of it. Locally, the group 
is known as
FCS. Most folks don't think about the Wainwright and District part in the full name. I 
believe this
is where the creator got the idea, and basically where I got my color scheme. My 
entire palette is
derived from that one image, including the two mattes in the background effect.

I would like to have created my own graphics, but alas, graphic design is not my 
forte, any more
than site design. My only tools are Notepad and Paint, and a fixation on 'parallel and
perpendicular' layout. Must stem from my cabinetmaking trade.

If I ever decide to make a living with web development, I will certainly partner with 
someone who's
background is in graphics (perhaps someone much younger than myself, with 'modern' 
ideas). When all
the information is removed, the web is still chaulk full of visual content. I would be 
the last
person to ever downplay the importance of graphical appeal. One must never discount 
the valuable
role played by the many gifted artists who have made the web 'a nice place to visit.'

Someone once said, "There may be folks who are great graphics designers, and folks who 
are great
programmers, and folks who are great html coders... but there are very few who can 
honestly boast of
being all three."

For my own part, I am content to learn the bare-bones of proper structural design and 
CSS, and leave
the 'enrichment' to someone with skills in the presentation arts. This is what I love 
most about
Standards Based web development--we can not only separate content from presentation, 
we can also
delineate the various components. I see myself as the 'cribber and framer' who hands a 
structure
over to the folks who will put the skin on the outside, and the finish to the inside. 
The whole
concept lends itself to teamwork much better than table based layout. Now all I need 
is a team. :-)

This was what I had in mind when building this site, and the couple others I have on 
the web.

I think it was Henry Ford who said, "Don't try to be the expert--find the expert, and 
pay what the
expert is worth." This could be summed up simply: delegate or stagnate.

Cheers,

Roy

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Hi Roy,
great idea with the accessibility links up the top, they fit in quite
well with the whole design. The accessibility statement is great, do you
think sites should all incorporate something like this?

Don't like the logo much though, not sure about the drop shadows, and
the white spot glow on the yellow oval. I think a cleaner font would
have conveyed more meaning. I'm not sure how this logo relates to
company.

Thanks,


Tim Hill
Computer Associates
Graphic Artist
tel: +612 9937 0792
fax: +612 9937 0546
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