> Don't get suckered into the myth that standards based web sites can't look as > good as old-school tag soup sites. That's what people who can't be bothered > learning something new use as an argument.
Quite true but they dont have the interactivity as flash does. flash isnt good for hte main actual site, but most are including an interactive version of the site for those kinds of people. > I maintain that the actual web sites you produce should not look any different > just because you are using standards. Until someone views source (or tries a > browser other than IE or uses a screen reader etc), no one should know what > you've done. Yes, flash does have it advantages, but most of the TOP high premium websiets that you can buy today area all XHTML/CSS. Very few using flash. Many of the other XHTML CSS websites are pinicles of webdesign today. A List Apart & Zeldman proove this. There websites are what people should be trying to achieve. Although they do admit flash is good in ceritan areas. Vincent Flanders even said it one time, he makes the point that flash is to be used in areas where it isnt a problem to use it & used right it is quite effective. > When I started getting our team to start coding to the standards, I didn't > even mention it to the designers - I got the coders to change the way they > were creating the sites. The graphic designers are still producing the same > kinds of things that they did before. I know of many graphic designers who have attempted to literally build there sites in Photoshop - fairly good sites- 500px wide and a good length long. But then again i also know of webcoders/designers who dont know crap and get into the industry www.taupowebdesigners.co.nz (i dont know here i just offered to help her and got slammed back.) - many webdesigners arent openminded to go standards compliant aswell - good reminder... Graphics designers have to know the coding side, the coding is restrictive to what a designer is able to do for a website. If he builds a site that is almost impossible to code or is far to complicated, no point. Its good to have Graphic designers who know the coding limitations & understand there is a limit. In the end, Photoshop was never published to build sites, Dreamweaver was. Sadly MANY graphic designers never actually catch on to that concept and get into the webdesign industry missing the graphic/media design industry. Although thats good - although i would have got atleast one standards compliant coder to help upskill the others. most webdesign agencies expect the coders to upskill while in the middle of coding all of this work. It took me almost a year before i became standards compliant - and then i was a bit sketchy. I did it bymyself. Camz. www.t94xr.net.nz ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *****************************************************
