Hi David,
i totally agree with you concerning the goals of web standards
... but i use the satay method anyway because i'm selfish
and validation gives me the kick :))
beeing such a junkie i'll soon switch my page from transitional
to strict, because i neeeeedd moooooooooooooooore ;)
greets from stuttgart
stefan
http://www.cialog.com
On 24. Sep 2004, at 00:53, David McKinnon wrote:
Reiterating Ben's comments and Zeldman's summary of the problems with
the
Satay method in Designing With Web Standards, that's exactly the
problem
with the Satay--sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. On some
browsers, on some machines, sometimes. I think Zeldman's comment is
how many
people do you want to choose to alienate?
This may sound like heresy in this list, but the goal of using Web
standards
is not to get your site to validate. (Wait, put down that pitchfork!)
The
way I see it people, is that it's all about people. The goal is to
make it
better for people. Better for viewers, who don't get things looking
like
krud because they choose the 'wrong' browser or platform. Better for
people
with special needs. Better for people who build and maintain the site
and
better for the people who will redesign the site when it comes to that.
Then, when the forces of good rise up to crush the forces of tyranny
all
people will live in...
Er... sorry, got a bit carried away there...
Anyway it may just be better to use the flash default code because it
works
even if it doesn't validate.
No, not the torch! Arrgh!
David
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Behalf Of Mike Foskett
Sent: Friday, 24 September 2004 12:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Embedding Flash
Just checked it in:
PC: Opera v7, Firefox v1, IE v6.
Mac: Safari v1, firefox v1, Netscape v7, IE v5.2
All displayed just fine.
I'd remind you to replace some of the alt tags though (intro1.jpg etc).
And perhaps consider adding "house doctor" to the initial h1.
mike 2k:)2
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Fenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 September 2004 11:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Embedding Flash
Mark wrote:
Unless there is a major reason to be XHTML then I normally use HTML
4.01 - even if only on the pages with flash included.
That's what I'm going to do now :-(
Thanks for the help everyone!
All the best,
--
Ian
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