True, Patrick,  it's not a teaching tool.  But you do need to be able to
find out what is correct if it says it's wrong.

The link in the big red bar doesn't link to a syntax reference at all, but a
general document about XHTML and changes from html etc.  I was looking for
something to tell me specifically what is the valid syntax for a drop down
select box, and I couldn't find one.  Still can't.

Can anyone tell me where to find the specific syntax for a select dropdown?
Or any other tag?    You can't find it from the validator page, and I'd have
thought you ought to be able to.

As it is, it's a bit like when your dad whacked you as a kid for doing
something wrong.  You wailed "what was that for?" and he says "you did
something wrong - something to do with your clothes." and he wont tell you
that you should have picked your clothes up off the bathroom floor after
your shower.  In my book that's poor parenting, and I think it would be a
very simple task for W3C to add a link to the correct syntax somewhere in
that validator tool.

Now another possibility is that I couldn't see a link to the correct syntax
that was right there in front of my face.   Well after searching the
validator results page for 30 minutes I couldn't see it, and if there was
such a link, it's not very well designed.   It ought to be obvious.

So ... where DO I find a reference document showing the correct syntax for
XHTML tags?

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke
Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 2004 11:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Select form element doesnt validate

Michael Kear wrote:
> I figure if a validator is going to say "that's wrong" they
> ought to provide a link so you can find out what's right. 
> 
> Don't you think?

There are no less than 2 links to the exact specification of the doctype 
your document purports to use (one at the top, in the form, just next to 
the dropdown where you can force a different doctype, and one in the big 
brown/red bar that tells you when something is not valid).

Also, the actual error messages are quite verbose if you read them 
properly. For example, in the case of "there is no attribute" type 
errors, you have, among other things: " How to fix: check the spelling 
and case of the element and attribute, (Remember XHTML is all 
lower-case) and/or check that they are both allowed in the chosen 
document type, and/or use CSS instead of this attribute." (and yes, in 
this case it was the lower-case issue that was to blame).

Beyond that, it's a validating tool, not a teaching tool...

Patrick H. Lauke


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