Hi Damian, I misunderstood what you meant when you wrote: >In a page where there is only one form and one semantically linked >>set of form controls is a fieldset necessary/desirable?
I didn't realize that you will still referring to your example, I thought you meant a simple form such as a text label + input + submit. I now understand and think that the use of a list in you form is appropriate. >Also, I would have thought that modern screen readers would be able >to group radio and checkbox groups based on name attributes. Is this >not the case? from what i have read they do not group controls in this way. The info here: The HTML Forms Challenge [http://www.freedomscientific.com/HTML_challenge/files/forms_challenge.html] may be helpful for better understanding how a screen reader (JAWS) interacts with forms. with regards Steven Faulkner Web Accessibility Consultant National Information & Library Service (NILS) 454 Glenferrie Road Kooyong Victoria 3144 Phone: (613) 9864 9281 Fax: (613) 9864 9210 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Information Library Service A subsidiary of RBS.RVIB.VAF Ltd. Damian Sweeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .edu.au> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [WSG] Help with fieldset in a li [EMAIL PROTECTED] group.org 29/10/2004 12:20 PM Please respond to wsg > >In a page where there is only one form and one semantically linked >>set of form controls is a fieldset necessary/desirable? > >I think while desirable it is not necessary, unless you have a radio button >or checkbox group. >But why not use the fieldset element to structure the form instead of >putting in a div or some other container? remeber the legend is optional. > The main reason for using an <ol> is that this is a well-established convention for questionnaires and helps to structure the feedback for responses (which is often per question for my purposes). Also, I would have thought that modern screen readers would be able to group radio and checkbox groups based on name attributes. Is this not the case? Anyway, based on the responses I'm currently thinking I'll do things this way: http://members.iinet.net.au/~damianfs/sample2.html where the fieldset only encloses the radio buttons in a group. This fixes the positioning problem for the list items in Firefox and IE and seems semantically sound to me. No legends are used. Thanks again for the excellent responses, Damian -- Damian Sweeney Instructional Designer, AIRport Project Equity, Language and Learning Programs University of Melbourne 723 Swanston St Parkville 3010 www.services.unimelb.edu.au/ellp/ ph 03 8344 9370, fax 03 9349 1039 This email and any attachments may contain personal information or information that is otherwise confidential or the subject of copyright. Any unauthorised use, disclosure or copying of any part of it is prohibited. The University does not warrant that this email or any attachments are free from viruses or defects. Please check any attachments for viruses and defects before opening them. If this email is received in error please delete it and notify us by return email or by phoning (03) 8344 9370. ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
