lol well i took the comment probably different then you meant it but.... microcrap chooses to avoid the main stream in hopes that everyone does things "their" way or pay the price. (can we say Monopoly?) now when MM made those templates im sure they worked just fine especially in IE and the probable fact is that M$ changes what they were doing so it messed up those templates. I seem to recall there being some pretty big issues between IE5 & IE6, and then there are their fixes which usually mess everything else up.
bottom line is that they arent gunna change until we make them change i just didnt think MM deserved the comment u gave them. And my point was just to say that blame should just go to where it belongs. and sure i dont like M$ and its because of crap like this but if u can come up with a solution out of the box and "work in all browsers on all platforms" you will be a rich man :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Will Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:14:40 +0300 >Dave, > >You need some tranquilizers man. > >You did miss my point. > >Macromedia sells a product that purports to work with IE and most other >browsers. Macromedia DreamWeaver MX has a defective template. Simple as >that. > >A minor problem that could have been avoided by a bit more careful >checking before release. > >It was not glaringly apparent until I put it into a screen resolution >that allowed it to be exposed. > >Thanks to two fellows on this newsgroup for their guidance and simple >fixes for the problem. If they can do it - so could Macromedia. > >IE on any platform is not my favorite browser. Nor is Safari or Opera >or Netscape or Firefox....etc! All have their problems and >shortcomings. I use all of them to test my products before release. > >According to the browser statistics in a recent posting to this group: >IE "owns" something like 92% of the browser market (presuming, of >course, that those stats are truly reflective of the user community). > >I do not hate a company simply because they have captured the majority >of the market. > >I DO dislike Microsoft's inability to adapt quickly to industry >standards that are emerging around them. > >I do NOT rant at the folks who use the products that are often >pre-installed on their computers. MOST Internet users fall into this >category. They are victims of Microsoft's success at marketing. Do not >blame the victim! > >An American story comes to mind of a girl named Pollyanna - who always >thought positively - perhaps naively so. You seem to imply that I am >somewhat "pollyanish" in my belief that MacroMedia would do a little >more proofing before they deliver a product to market. Macromedia did >not do this and are correctly blamed for the problem with THEIR >template. > >IE and its lack of standards compliance is an extenuating factor. > >I doubt you design websites only for compliance to the 'best' browsers >on the market without regard for the "1,000 kilogram ape" looming over >you. > >Thanks for the article link - nothing new there - but it's always good >to see someone trying to tell the already converted what they want to >hear. > >Will Jensen >Moscow, Russia > > >On Nov 17, 2004, at 10:11 AM, csslist wrote: > >> ok maybe its just the way u said this but its gotta be the dumbest >> thing i have ever read >> >> [quote]I imagined MacroMedia would not turn >> out a template that did not work in all browsers on all >> platforms.[/quote] >> >> i mean come on!!!! >> >> if it makes u feel better to pass some blame then blame who it is that >> at fault >> and gee wouldnt u guess who it is? micro$oft.... imagine that >> >> the quote should be more like this >> >> I imagined Micro$oft would not turn out such crap that did not work >> right and doesnt follow the recommended validation standards but then >> again if they built something right then all the worlds crime would go >> away, everything would be green and fertile, everyone would be >> beautiful, there would be free super slurpee's for the everyone and >> there would be nothing but world peace. >> >> and we all know all that aint about to happen >> >> btw, a desect quick read >> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-5570803-1.html?tag=cnetfd.ld >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: Will Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:35:29 +0300 >> >>> I am running IE 6 on Win 2K Adv Server. >>> >>> This is an interesting wrinkle. I imagined MacroMedia would not turn >>> out a template that did not work in all browsers on all platforms. >>> >>> I used a 1024x768 screen resolution and if I resize the IE6 window >>> horizontally the capsule story section drops down below the PageNav >>> section. It may not be obvious unless you play about a bit with the >>> size of the IE window. >>> >>> I have a 17" screen and the difference is very large in the placement >>> of the text. > > ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
