Iain Harrison wrote:
Hello Gunlaug,

Saturday, November 20, 2004, 12:05:19 AM, you wrote:


IE6 should be seen as an obstacle from a users point of view, as
well as from a web designer's position. I'm not a user and I don't
design for IE6 either.


Although I think I agree with you, the reality is that the vast majority of web users are using IE6.

You may as well say that Windows has bugs. It does, but lots of people use it.

My approach is to design pages that look good, are standards-compliant and accessible, but I also have to make sure that
they work well in IE6, because that's what most users will be looking
at them with.

Iain, I follow you 100% and I think I wrote something very similar, but I don't design _for_ IE6!

My point is that IE6 is less of a problem in quirks mode, as the thread
goes. Fixing IE/win is the easy part, so why complicate it if no visitor
can see the difference?

To be precise:
- I _design_ using standards in Opera, Moz/FF and Lynx (in whatever
order), and includes Safari in that group although I haven't got a Mac
yet (will soon).
- I have almost made an artform out of "whipping" IE5.0+/win into
presenting any ordinary creation as a "standard compliant look-alike".
Advanced creations isn't possible in IE/win, but I know how to cheat if
I want to.

I handcode everything, and I have as much control as I'd like when it
comes to any browser I can get up on my screens/OS (win2K-pro).
I share my knowledge about how to fix IE5/IE6 on win into something that
looks like compliance with standards-- through hacking or whatever-- in
any mode-- over at css-d. However, I often have doubts if I'm doing
anyone a favor by doing so. It's fun though... :)

regards
        Georg

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