>what if you want one of the columns to have a border around it, say the right column. How can this be done?
If you want one of the columns to have a border, then you just apply the border property to the column and your 200x1 pixel gif can have that border on it as well. Should work fine. One of the main reasons that I struggled to create this layout is so that you could have different colors for the background, header, footer, and all three columns (none of the colors are "shining through" from underlying elements). This can be extended to different backgrounds as well ... which is the REAL reason that I worked on this design. If you wanted some sort of fancy background for the side columns (or any element) then you would just apply that background to the column and the wrapper div. >IE 5.2 OS X (Mac): extra padding added to the width of the left and right columns >Screenshot: http://www.motive.co.nz/temp/041217-hoygrail.gif >(could be a known CSS bug related to IE implementation of box model-padding and border added to width) >See: http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html Call for help: Does anyone have any ideas about this problem in IE 5.2 OS X (screenshot: http://www.motive.co.nz/temp/041217-hoygrail.gif). I have already implemented the box model hack, so I'm not sure what the issue could be. > Anyone come up with, or implemented, a 3-column layout of this sort in which the left and right columns also stretch as a percentage of the page width? >I haven't tried it yet, but one theory is to make the background repeater very long (horizontally), and set it to repeat-y, but set its "x-axis" start position as a percentage. I haven't tried it yet, but one theory is to make the background repeater very long (horizontally), and set it to repeat-y, but set its "x-axis" start position as a percentage. I actually started working on an all-liquid layout at first. I ended up going to a single-column liquid layout just because this would work better for a project I'm about to embark on. What you suggest is exactly how I planned to try to implement the backgrounds (I didn't get that far yet, though). However, I might try to follow up on the all-liquid layout just to see if it can be done. If I get to it and get it to work, I'll post it here. Quick Note: Dejan - Wow ... THANK YOU for your help. I'm sure those screen shots will be very helpful and I really appreciate your time. Mani Sheriar Sheriar Designs | www.ManiSheriar.com 925|914.0741 ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************