Collin Davis wrote:
As I though I explained before, and as I'll try to clarify some more below, you may be doing them a disservice.I can't speak for everybody, but as the person responsible for designing and creating websites whose sole purpose is to bring new business into the company; my main focus is the majority that comes to our sites.
As I have tried to point out, almost all of them would still get 100% of the styling; if not through CSS alone, then with a little help from JavaScript. For that small percent of IE users who have JavaScript blocked, they'll just get what they're getting now. So while it would be no loss for them, it would be a gain for the rest.The overwhelming majority (about 70%) of visitors use MSIE 5/6.
If I have to limit myself to certain practices or markup to ensure that those people don't get a "unstyled or lightly styled" page, then darn right I'm going to.So you limit yourself to what NN4.x and can handle? It was NN4.x and older browsers that the phrase "unstyled or lightly styled" was directed, unless you consider CSS dumb down to IE standards (admittedly, that usually amounts to no more than a slight margin, but a margin, none the less) to be "lightly styled."
That would be an interesting reversal; usually we need to explain why a Flash based sight or a sight which relies on JavaScript for functionality would do exactly that. (While I don't think I made it clear yet in this thread, as I have on a number of other occasions, I am a staunch advocate for unobtrusive JavaScript.)I'm not going to be the one trying to explain to our owner why somebody is on the phone having problems accessing a part of the site, or trying to explain if we get an email saying our sites are horrible.
That person could be an architect wanting to specify our products to the tune of multiple millions on a project.
And if that architect happens to be using NN4.x?
There is nothing "filthy" about pursuit of profit, unless you see its pursuit as an end onto itself. While this could lead to a fascinating discussion of philosophy and ethics, I'm afraid it's also a bit off topic.So yes, in the pursuit of filthy lucre,
And ignore standards by writing IE proprietary code? Somehow, I would guess not; otherwise you probably wouldn't be a member of this list.I'm going to cater to the majority, and the majority is IE.
Sorry, but I don't think you read what I wrote in the body carefully enough. Admittedly, my subject line, while accurate, was intentionally a little misleading. Much of my argument, however, was that that there would be at most no diminution from what they get today, but for probably around 90% there would be an improvement.In answer to the question in your subject, "Why style to IE?" my answer is: because that's who visits [my employer's] sites.
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