On 10 Feb 2005, at 10:33 am, RMW Web Publishing wrote:

I also had this problem recently and I also had no luck at finding some code
that I could "rip". So I created my own (example):


[ snipped code ]

#header_nav li span {
 display: none;
}
[.....]
<ul id="header_nav">
<li id="personalise"><a href="/change/" title="Personalise your
Homepage"><span>Personalise</span></a></li>
<li id="products"><a href="/pricing/" title="Infomation on
services"><span>Products</span></a></li>
<li id="help"><a href="/help/" title="DIY
support"><span>Help</span></a></li>
</ul>


#header_nav li span {display: none;}
You'll penalise users of screenreaders that way, and maybe users of other devices.


Zeldmans top navigation use images, and does what the OP wants.
<http://www.zeldman.com/>

he uses absolute positioning and negative text-indent.

HTH

Philippe
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